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Reddit is telling protesting mods their communities ‘will not’ stay private (www.theverge.com)
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[-] Overzeetop@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

I’ll say it every time: it’s their platform, their servers, their choice. However, we owe them nothing. If they want to go it alone, we need to let them. Let them hire paid moderators and we should delete our content so they have to create their own.

We built the communities there, we can do it again elsewhere. We have the expertise and the desire.

[-] static@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Reddit chose to be non profitable in order to kill off all internet forums.

It's reddit that's changing the terms, not mods acting up.

[-] Erk@cdda.social 4 points 2 years ago

It kinda reminds me of what happened to rural buses in Canada. We had small bus companies going all over the place. Greyhound bought them all out and ran the whole thing as a monopoly for a few years.

Then they decided it was too much trouble and shut the operations down.

For the last twenty years there are no rural buses at all. If you want to get from point a to b outside of town, it's flight or drive.

[-] lightninhopkins@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Like everything else. Big money buys out competition and then kills off anything that is not profitable enough. Parasitic private equity take all the money.

[-] thisjustin@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

That's incredibly sad, and as the other commenter suggested, all too common with big daddy capitalism. I can't describe how angry it makes me, and how powerless those situations make me feel at times. I'm so happy, and proud, when I see communities truly fight back - and I can fight along side then. So often we go out with a wimpe, I want to fight for the things important to me!

[-] patchw3rk@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Added to @BestOf!

[-] user36481@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

There are reports they are undeleting content. The only option is to stop participating.

[-] tinwhiskers@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I've just been sorting my comments by highest score and replacing a dozen or so each day with something like "-> fediverse". So far none have been restored. Most of the lower scored comments don't have value to anyone anyway so I'm just ordering by most impact until I get bored.

Not participating isn't the only choice.

On days I'm feeling particularly petty I go into discussions and vote down the good comments and vote up the bad ones just to make the signal to noise ratio worse. Yes, I'm that petty.

[-] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Maybe you don't mind doing it manually, but you can automate it too (at least until the api goes down)

https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite

[-] Erk@cdda.social 2 points 2 years ago

I'd skip the vote one, it's just giving them a bit more traffic stats. Agree with the edit though.

If you wanna be petty, edit your posts into contextual nonsense that looks like it fits, so Reddit gets just a little harder to read.

[-] Pixelologist@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Damn that's a good idea. Filter by highest karma and make them word soup that makes readers question their sanity. I just went with '.'

[-] Endorkend@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Seems the person that spread that was mistaken.

They deleted content that was in public subreddits, then when the privated subreddits started going public again, the posts he made in those became visible again, making it seem certain content he deleted was being undeleted.

So far, there's been no verifiable report of actual undeletion of content.

But besides all that, with GDPR and the similar California laws, Reddit is already asking to get sued and get the EU on their ass, for not deleting peoples data on request, as compliance requires.

[-] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

"The person that spread that?" Are you being serious? That's happened to a lot of people. It's happened to me repeatedly. In fact I'm right now yet again deleting a bunch of posts that stayed deleted for days and are mysteriously back again.

[-] RickRussell_CA@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, that previous explanation makes no sense -- the YT guy who recorded his entire session was deleting the same stuff over and over again.

[-] Raeyin@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

That sounds like a server error.

Don't get me wrong. I have no doubt that Reddit has decided to go to war with any unhappy users. I have zero respect left.

Out of self-respect, I will still try to understand whether something is a bug or deliberate.

[-] pixelpop3@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Are you certain it is the exact same comment or post? I think people are deleting everything (via scripts or whatever), but everything isn't actually everything because of the way reddit hides content in certain situations. When people have posted screenshots it has been content from subreddits that had be set private during protests and reopened. Reddit annoyingly hides your own content from yourself in many circumstances.

I'm not saying these undeletes definitely do not happen, but people have needed to delete content on Reddit for reasons the pre-date the protests. The legal risks to reddit for them to be caught restoring content that a user deliberately deleted is significant. So unless a whistleblower or compelling evidence emerges Occam's razor will go with reddit bugs and "features". Everyone knows reddit is bug-ridden.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

Yep, I got a similar case to yours.

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[-] Mishmash2000@lemmy.nz 9 points 2 years ago

You MUST re-open the community you helped build over the years for free so that we can earn BIG monies on teh ads!! Make us monies for FREE slave!! We pay you NUTHIN! You work hard for USSSS!!!! Work when WE tell you too!!!!!! foaming at the mouth with rage

[-] nameless_prole@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

"Landed gentry"... Because that's what I think about when I think about unpaid employees.

[-] PotentiallyAnApricot@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

Absolute garbage way to treat people. Foreshadowing for how reddit, and probably other places, plan to treat the communities they so love to claim credit for.

[-] chahk@beehaw.org 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Step 1: open the sub.

Step 2: make every member a moderator.

Step 3: watch the world burn.

[-] Arystique@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

One subreddit did this IIRC

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[-] kuchaibee@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

I hope more communities think of migrating to other places instead of staying on reddit. It's getting worse with each passing day.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 points 2 years ago

Man Reddit is really trying to push a narrative of big bad mean mods, never mentioning they're unpaid and being ignored while doing a shitload of labor

[-] Unhappily_Coerced@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I deleted 9 years worth of user content, across 5 different reddit accounts. Followed by CCPA "Delete My Data" demands, on each account.

It's almost as if, a large majority of reddit users are spineless, or consider their useless internet clout points more valuable than a small sense of morality...

A temporary blackout is not a protest compared to this method.

For those wondering... TamperMonkey browser add-on with RedditHistorySanitizer userscript (https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/23605-reddit-history-sanitizer/code). It's kinda slow, but much faster than doing it manually!

[-] hightrix@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

That Google exec's comments along with the Apple showcase of Apollo must have reddit leadership shitting their pants.

So much for the protest having "no effect".

[-] HandsHurtLoL@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I think prospects of going public via IPO were tanked when a tech giant like Google is publicly venturing opinions about the platform.

[-] Granixo@feddit.cl 2 points 2 years ago

Can't wait for Monday!

[-] VulcanSphere@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

The sheer of panic in Snoo Platform, Inc. means that protest and blackout work.

IPO blackout looks even more good now.

[-] MoshBit@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

What's an IPO blackout?

[-] CapgrasDelusion@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I assume they mean go blackout again during Reddit's IPO/Initial Public Offering of Reddit stock in an attempt to tank the stock price.

[-] Scooter411@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Whoa! Negative 1 comments!

[-] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I'd like to kick Spez in the not stay privates.

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 1 points 2 years ago

The dumpster fire continues to burn. As Demi Lovato would say "Let it go, Let it go, can't hold it back anymore"

[-] Shhalahr@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Do it. Show your true colors, Reddit.

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