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I have been thinking a lot since the election about what could explain the incredibly high numbers of Americans who seem incapable of critical thinking, or really any kind of high level rational thought or analysis.

Then I stumbled on this post https://old.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/16ires5/lead_exposure_from_shooting_is_a_much_more/

Which essentially explains that “Shooting lead bullets at firing ranges results in elevated BLLs at concentrations that are associated with a variety of adverse health outcome"

I looked at the pubmed abstract in that Reddit post and also this one https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5289032/

Which states, among other things, “Workers exposed to lead often show impaired performance on neurobehavioral test involving attention, processing, speed, visuospatial abilities, working memory and motor function. It has also been suggested that lead can adversely affect general intellectual performance.”

Now, given that there are well in excess of 300 million guns in the United States, is it possible lead exposure at least partially explains how brain dead many Americans seem to be?

This is a genuine question not a troll and id love to read some evidence to the contrary if any is available

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[-] Libb@jlai.lu 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

As an outsider (most people in my country don't shoot guns for fun, but we still have our fair share of morons) I think not educating oneself/not being educated may be a more important cause.

My personal opinion is that it's more related to the way people spend (waste) their time. All of us, I mean. The way we (do not) educate ourselves, the way we do (not) value intelligence and knowledge.

  • How many people shoot guns? vs How many don't ever read a book (a difficult one, I mean, say one essay a year)? or How many students reach university level without having read a single book? FFS, if that doesn't ring an alarm bell...
  • How many people are (not) being taught how to have heated but articulated discussions, in the literal sense of debating against someone, having a dispute with someone, while still being able to not want to kill one another?
  • How many people are willing to be told (and willing to admit that) they were wrong... when they were?

That lack of education and an overall cheerful ignorance of all facts that dare not fit their viewpoint, no matter which one it is, seems to me a much more likely cause to explain why more and more people around the world (not just Americans) 'seem cognitively impaired'. And that's because, well, they are. Sadly.

We don't value knowledge anymore, we value money and success. Once again, suffice to ask people: how many essays did you read in the last 12 months? Or to look at kids, how many of them want to be, say, a doctor, a scientist of some sort or, even funnier, a writer? And how many want to become 'an influencer' on YT (or TikTok, or whatever) or to become some star singer or sport star?

Kids have not suddenly become allergic to smartness. They're only the mirror of what our real values as a society are (not the ones we pretend to have). Which are not being smart, not even talented as a matter of fact. They are: easy money and success.

imho, this is the main cause of dumbification going on everywhere. Obviously, I may be wrong and maybe I should stop eating lead bars as a snack?

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[-] Zier@fedia.io 13 points 4 days ago

Religion is the cause. You are not allowed to think outside the cult. There are a lot of idiot Americans who don't own guns or are exposed to them, so the lead theory is not valid in that sense.

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[-] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 15 points 5 days ago

what could explain the incredibly high numbers of Americans who seem incapable of critical thinking

Garbage education system.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

100%. It's been intentionally neutered to keep people ignorant and stupid in their decisions.

It's 'razing of the library of Alexandria' bad for our near future. The only thing worse I can think of is plastic pollution.

[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

It's really the idiocracy theory. Dumb people have more and more kids while smart people tend to have 0 to 2 kids. It's exponetially growing the amount of dumb people. Besides some people that had potential dumbed themselfs down by joining organized religion. very sad

[-] Denjin@lemmings.world 10 points 4 days ago

It's not smart vs dumb though, it's educated vs uneducated. I seemingly small distinction but a critical one.

There's a distinct inverse correlation with the mean education level of a population and their birth rate (the better educated a group is the fewer babies they have) especially when you look at the women in that population.

Uneducated parents don't value education in their children and so on and so on. Educated parents very much do value education in their children and actively participate in the schooling.

These two factors together mean that there's a increasing number of people who do not value educating themselves or their children and also tend to identify with those politicians who present as uneducated (while actually being highly educated and highly intelligent but lacking in any empathy or morality). This is one factor in why populist parties are gaining traction again in western democracies.

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[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I figured copper jackets would greatly reduce lead exposure, which is all I used when I used to shoot.

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[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 days ago

You’d have to shoot thousands of rounds in an unventilated room to get even close to one day of leaded gasoline exposure

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Leaded gas wasn't fully stopped until 1996. Still in some aviation used (piston plane engines).

But yes I wonder about shooting ranges too. I think a couple times a year at an indoor range isn't insignificant.

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