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Just morbid questions. I mean I'm not some CEO, just an averge person. Just wondered how seriously is my death even gonna be investigated. (Or is nobody even gonna care, like how my parents probably won't even care if I died)

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[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 10 points 15 hours ago

That last by-the-bye got me. I'll bite.

Sounds like you're having a tough time at the moment. There are some good communities here if you're needing a virtual hug bigger than I can give.

Hopefully your throwaway line is just that you've had a fixable row with them and are cooling off somewhere else.

Best wishes this Christmas, one and all.

[-] Nyxicas@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 14 hours ago

You have a better chance of your case not being resolved if someone just straight up shot you in a crowded area before they make a getaway. The bigger the crowd, the chances are higher. Because people will spend more time scattering and getting the fuck away from possibly being shot too.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago

Sorry to say, but the average investigation looks absolutely nothing like it does on TV. NYC has 9000 unsolved murder cases right now. So the odds are pretty good that they wouldn't even look for your killer.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 7 points 17 hours ago

plus most investigation is filling out a report and filing it away.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

Was there a security camera at the murder location?

Yes.

Do we have the footage?

No.

I guess this case is unsolvable. Next!

[-] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago

Generally speaking, there is about a 50% chance that they'll solve it at all.

https://www.newsweek.com/murder-clearance-rate-decline-report-council-criminal-justice-homicide-rates-1853748

98% of the murders that are solved will be solved within a year.

[-] adhocfungus@midwest.social 15 points 21 hours ago

Also significant that the vast majority of solved murders are committed by someone you know. The FBI stats have <10% of solved murders being committed by strangers. It's impossible to know what percentage of unsolved murders were committed by strangers, but it's clear the odds are not in your favor if it isn't somebody the police can add to their list just by asking around.

[-] DavidDoesLemmy@aussie.zone 3 points 18 hours ago

While that conclusion is probably true, I don't think you can conclude that from the data.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

Unless they are really stupid they are never gonna be caught.

[-] DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Hmmm... Are you a pretty, blonde white woman?

[-] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago

One of my grandfathers was murdered several years before I was born. He ran an off licence (small grocery store), when robbers took money and still used a shotgun to his face at point blank.

I believe it took around 20 years to catch one of them, with the accomplice having passed away from other causes years prior to the capture.

There have been a few attempted murders of friends/neighbours, over the years here, without anything coming of it.

I'm not within any profession to be providing a direct answer to your question, however in my mind I don't believe there would be much effort provided for most people. I say this with some confidence, after seeing how much is provided to the rich in comparison to, well, everyone else... Rather sad realisations, ngl.

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Fucking hell mate. Where do you live that's so rough? There's around 600 murders a year in the country I live (UK).

That said I don't think there'd be much effort to investigate here either, the police just default to saying things are a civil matter these days.

[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 1 points 14 hours ago

This.

Only about one in twenty of recorded 'crime' is ever solved. I don't know whether that includes posting a tweet (aka non-crime hate incident). That's recorded crime (if they'll let you record a crime).

Same view as you: got turned away with that same phrase "civil matter, sir".

I'm guessing that the real figure is maybe 1 in 100 at best. I'm sure I saw a pod cast of that undercover detective (Pete(r) B-something?) who was evicted from the Met who said the figure was in that ball park. Can't find it or remember his name. Bah!

[-] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Greater London. When people think of London they usually forget the areas on the outskirts. Just a lot of gang activity. Earlier this year someone got stabbed metres from my living room window, however they survived. All of my friends who have moved away have expressed being considerably happier.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I mean Alabama alone has around 700 murders a year.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 3 points 23 hours ago

Yeah well Cleetus needs to stop knocking up sheriff's wives and mistaking them for his cousins

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 16 points 1 day ago

Where said murder happens is a very important detail. Murdered on a roadway without any cameras for kilometers on end? Yeah, better believe nobody will find out the culprit. Murdered while visiting a different country? The chances might increase, but not much.

Who kills you also matters. Was it a cop or some rich asshole? It's likely he'll be found out quick, but will be acquitted for some shit reason or legal loophole.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Would depend on how you were murdered.

In the street with many cameras and witnesses, pretty high chance.

In your home with no cameras and no forced entry, very low.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

In the street with many cameras and witnesses, pretty high chance.

lets say, hypothetically some rando walks up and caps you, exactly like Luigi did the CEO. it took, probably, millions, or hundreds of thousands of dollars in terms of cop-hours, and a lot of that is straight up overtime. then there's things like draining the pond in central park, or whatever. the divers. the chasing down faulty leads.

and none of that was actually useful.

what got him in the end was the media campaign pushing his face (well. supposedly his face. there's holes in that story.) in front of everyone. And the only reason it had massive media campaign was because Luigi whacked some asshole who was a real prick, even by Health Care CEO standards, and that made it news.

they're actually more likely to figure out the other, because there's going to be a handful of people who have access to your place. Whoever has keys becomes suspect. Or whoever was in the place. at the very least, no forced entry means you knew the person, at least enough to open the door for them. (Pizza guy?) that's more than they had on Luigi until the McDonalds lady called it in.

(Seriously. Unless they have a continuous footage of him, spliced together from one camera to the next, never leaving it, then they matched Luigi's face to a pair of eyebrows on grainy video. Sure they might have DNA or something more now, but those photos were a joke. as they say. "he fit a description". a blurry, pixelated description.)

[-] MrNesser@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

If he hadn't taken the mask off in the hostel they would still be looking.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

No, they wouldn’t.

They would have found somebody else who “fit a description.”

To my knowledge there was no real reason to believe the guy in the second two photos were the shooter.

They didn’t have a solid “he goes here, here and here” timeline on him (or they would have known he went to the bus port much sooner.)

Mayve he wanted to get caught so they wouldn't blame a scapegoat?

Or maybe he is the scapegoat.

🤷‍♂️

(If Luigi is the perpetrator, maybe he wanted to get caught so his manifesto gets in the news?)

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 2 points 22 hours ago

Could even be a copycat using the opportunity to get their manifesto in the news

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Okay so what if this scenario: [Hypothetical, I'm not in this situation, yet]

I have an argument at home with family members, and someone got pissed.

They:

[1] kills me while I sleep

or

[2] poisons my food

I mean, I do have diagnosed depression (but never told my therapist/doctors about my suicidal idealization), so could they potentially fake a suicide?

[-] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago

Immediate family (spouses especially) are ALWAYS the primary suspect until they can be ruled out

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago

Becase family is most often at fault. So the easy answer is right. But when it isn't family it is much harder to guess who might have done it.

If they poison your food that's going to show up on toxicology, if they smother you with a pillow they'll probably get away with it

[-] Aedis@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is sounding oddly specific. OP, please don't kill your family member.

Edit: Actually, I'd like to add something. If you were to suffocate someone with a pillow or poison them, both of them would point to foul play, which would instantly pull in a list of possible suspects. In that list, the ones with motive would be investigated a bit more: ie, had a spat before the death. And from the on, it would be up to match evidence, now that an investigator knows what they're looking for, it won't take long to put 2 and 2 together.

[-] DragonsInARoom@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Prob never, because I'm not that stupid enough to leave evidence

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

If you aren't important and the perp halfway knows what they're doing - never. A majority of murders are never solved, you'd just become a statistic.

[-] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To be clear, "important" in this context is how much companies are affected financially by your death.

You could have a raft of friends and family that would be devastated by your passing, but if none of them have political or financial influence, it would purely depend on how ~~overworked~~ bored the police are and how easy it is to solve the case.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago

How long is a piece of string? Depends entirely on the specific case. For example, if you're murdered in front of witnesses, the answer will be very different than if you simply disappear mysteriously without anyone finding your body.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 8 points 1 day ago

Would there be anything about your case to pique the interest of podcasters?

Probably not...

Guess I'll just be a cold case. 🙃

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Old people have died in new york city apartments, only to be found several months later because of the smell of the corpse.

I don't know the statistics, but are most murders even solved? And if they are, it's probably because most murders happen when people are angry and do stupid things with zero planning.

[-] Sparky@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Are you trying to be murdered?

Nah, just want to know how important I am.

Like, if I get murdered and became a ghost, and see that my murderer actually getting caught, I'd at least feel like my life had some worth, since somebody actually cared enough to investigate my murder.

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