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Amazon Strike Takeaways: Walk-Outs Slowed Packages, Boosted Union Power (inthesetimes.com)
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[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Everything I’m hearing about these strikes is that they are going poorly. Truck driver that tried to pick up a trailer there a couple days ago said there were like 3 people striking. I’m sure in some areas there is strong support but overal it doesn’t look good for the teamsters.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 10 points 19 hours ago

Just anecdotally there were a lot of Amazon boxes going around at my family's Christmas gathering last night and no one mentioned any problems getting stuff on time.

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I mean the strike started really close to Christmas, by that point I had already gotten the things I ordered online. If anything the only people this strike would have affected is the last minute people who live near unionized facilities or facilities with good union support.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

I guess their leader shouldn't have decided to cuddle up to Trump.

[-] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

When strike breaker Harris abandoned the working class, what did you expect, exactly? Workers aren't beholden to party, and since you people will never vote third party, sometimes you have to go with the generic neoliberal instead of the one with marketable aesthetics.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I expected him to not kiss Trump's ass, but I guess that's asking far too much of a fucking labor leader.

[-] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

In a binary system, when one choice has abandoned all facade of supporting the largest union in the country ... What do you suppose they do?

Trump is a simple creature, his last admin proved you can get downright progressive results by kissing his ass in a way that generates good publicity or profits. As a reminder Trump pardoned more nonviolent black prisoners than Biden has, because a set of rappers recognized his game and played it. Hell there's a good chance Republicans are going to be the ones to legalize marijuana, not reschedule it, legalize it because they recognize how frustrated people are with Dems and it's an easy, cheap, and ideologically consistent win.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago

What do you suppose they do?

Call for a general strike.

[-] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

Great way to reduce membership numbers in a pretty violent way, also union membership isn't high enough to be a real general strike.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

So the question I have is - are people just scared to strike? Or are the conditions overblown and most workers don’t see it the way it’s reported?

I’d think if it was really that bad then there would be more solidarity and strikes.

I’m not saying it isn’t bad, but I’m trying to piece how bad it actually is if people aren’t willing to strike. I realize there are financial implications to striking, but isn’t that also why dues are paid? Aren’t there funds or things to give them some help/reason to strike?

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

People don’t strike anymore because they can’t. Wages are so bad and strike funds are so low that people will lose everything if they strike for more than a day or 2. Most strike funds these days pay out a couple dollars an hour your on the line.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Ugh, then doesn’t that mean that unions are just, in general, ineffective and a waste?

What the fuck is the solution?! Full Luigi?

[-] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Well I think atleast with Amazon the unions arent very pervasive yet, there's very few unionized facilities since Amazon does everything in their power to stop it from spreading. The solution would be to unionize all the facilities so that the collective support of them all would be enough to really make a dent in Amazon. Also probably starting the strike earlier so it really affects people, maybe make it start right around black Friday to have a real big impact since I've seen that's the busiest day for Amazon drivers atleast.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

Combination of people fearing losing their job due to strike, and the poor conditions being normalized. There’s a lot of that in retail and fulfillment where it’s just treated as normalcy to not have the human rights of a reasonable work environment and access to a restroom whenever needed.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Thank you for the answer.

I get that all of that, but that’s what the unions and the strikes are about though, right? Like, if you’re NOT exercising that option then you’re never going to get it and isn’t there an option to sue for losing your job over it?

I’ve never joined a union so I have NO idea, just what I’ve seen in comments and on Tv.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

A ton of what you see is through an anti-Union filter, and as you try to start one corporate will feed EVERYONE lines saying how much worse it’ll be with a union while actively making the workplace less accommodating, or talking about dues but not how much more sustainable wages would be even with them.

It’s a flood of misinformation and manipulation tactics.

And then places like Starbucks will leave online orders on for a location that’s closed and striking so even customers just get mad at the workers as a reason to fire everyone.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I appreciate your response. I hate these companies and the shit they are pushing. I have been trying to ween off of these types of places (like Amazon) as much as I can.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

I appreciate the discourse! It’s hard to be clear of them because they tend to be the big chain stores or brands that end up ‘important’ or hard to escape. Literally all of them do it in different ways and it normalizes the behavior among workers and consumers alike which makes it harder to practice ‘salting’ which is reminding those groups they’re mad at the employer/company not each other.

[-] Nyxicas@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 1 day ago

Consoomers are just going to have to be forced to understand that at the expense of getting these 'goods' (albeit cheaply made or whatever), are done by breaking the backs of workers who're forced to do straining jobs to make it so your precious little packages are sent to you.

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

You're targeting the wrong people, buddy. The war isn't against fellow wage slaves that need to buy stuff, so save your shots for the CEOs who mistakenly think their shareholders are more important than their workers.

[-] theonlytruescotsman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 hours ago

Both need to happen for a strike to be effective, and yeah that sucks for people wanting cheap throwaway nonsense.

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