The West must fucking find its balls and acknowledge that we are in a hybrid war against the blyats. It is high fucking time we fight back. Using every means short of direct military conflict.
Unlike the previous ships, this one was immediately seized by armed forces, so I guess we're starting to wake up.
To my knowledge, it was escorted to Finland from international waters by the coast guard, after which the police quick-response task unit stormed the bridge via helicopter. Had the ship refused to leave international waters, there’s nothing they could have done. I applaud them for their boldness and aggression, but luck also played a role. As far as I’m aware, the previous ships never entered any country’s territorial waters.
The previous ships weren't seen with hard evidence. This one had a missing anchor.
Apparently there are also some actions available on international waters where also countering pirates lies
Short of? Eastern Europe is being invaded and Europe is standing by...
Rbf, I think they're waiting for the real* Europe to be invaded.
Why should we stop short?
Russia is actively in combat with an Eastern European nation and has been for 4 years. It's arguable that the rest of Europe and the West engaging with Russia on a battlefield would actually save more lives in the end by shortening the conflict.
They can't make war if you remove their means to make war.
Because it's far more effective to wage an asymmetric non-shooting war. We have far more resources than the blyats could muster. We could outcompete them 100-fold in every fucking dimension. we could gradually weaken them until their miserable state crumbles. All without the devastation of war.
I studier the west is fully aware of that, and is fighting it on multiple fonts
We need to stop pretending that nuclear armament is an excuse to trample other countries with this childish crap.
Cut their internet and declare their currency holdings forfeit. Ban all travel to Russia. Force all companies to divest their holdings in Russia. Eject them from the UN.
Force them to live alone and if China joins in, then start ramping up production and give 'em the same treatment.
Keeping it tense between them and China is so good, alone theyll never make it. Watching Putin the panty poisoner and Xi Pooh bear give each other crusty blowjobs and get nothing from it is top 👌
If Europe and the US refused to trade with anyone who trades with Russia, China would embargo Russia in about half a second.
China knows we can’t stop importing all the garbage they send us. They have the markets cornered in so many items and materials that we really can’t embargo them.
We could, but we prefer comfort, so we don't. That seems to sum up where society is today.
Climate change? People who leave their car running while shopping so it stays cool don’t care about genocide or war as long as it’s far away. And honestly, I can’t entirely blame them—I probably grew up ignorant about some issues too.
We can’t afford to furnish our houses without china. And our US big businesses know it. It’s how they were able to keep wages so stagnant for so long, they were leaning on cheap Chinese TVs and plastics.
Yes we prefer checks notes having batteries
It's kinda interesting when you think about it. If the US politics had actually been pro worker/union for the past 60 years, we would've had protections and increased production/economical stability in the country by just giving it's own citizens power. Instead they've given china the power of production and influence while creating a hostile environment for competition and success state side.
I dance between some people being so ignorant they have no clue what they're doing and some are just hired CEO politicians selling the country off as much as they can squeeze before it goes under and they scurry away with their nest eggs.
What would India do?
You allow Russia to invade one country, you invite Russia to invade the next country.
You allow Russia to shoot down one passenger plane, you invite Russia to shoot down the next passenger plane.
You allow Russia to cut one undersea cable, you invite Russia to cut more undersea cables.
Appeasement just means more lebensraum.
Russian bingo card
Buy off incoming dementia riddled president.
They bought off musk? I thought he was already a POS
Musk is ketamine-addled, his puppet is dementia-riddled.
I think Russia would gladly not buy Putin
Just start ‘accidentally’ sinking the fucking ships that ‘accidentally’ cut the cables and that will get the message across.
That assumes Russia gives a shit about it's people.
Tap for spoiler
Russia does not give a shit.
Best use of spoiler ever...
Let's not sink a tanker full of gasoline into an already polluted baltic sea.
Then just do what Egypt did to some ships, seize them for an investigation and do it over 40 years while the crew is detained.
We need to go a lot further than this, but yes.
Thank God for Finland.
I'm just waiting for the moment when a country exposed to "accidental" cable cutting, or attacks using water jets from the Chinese coast guard or similar, just responds by shooting first and asking questions later.
Like: You cut our cables/blocked our atoll from getting resupply, etc... put a 50mm in their face and carry on. Let them do the responding.
"Oh no, they were conducting acts of war and were in our way, so we sank them. What are you gonna do about it? Maybe stop doing that?"
Oh but they crave escalation. Like any bully, they want the victim to respond violently, because that would justify their actions and let them respond in kind, saying they are just protecting their security.
Even those ship arrests are fodder for their internal propaganda - "They just started arresting innocent Chinese ships with russian crews! Barbarians AND Facists!"
Trust me, bullies back down after escalation. Ever punch a bully in the lip?
Do you think that they're not trying to provoke a reaction?
Sink the damned thing.
Don't be silly. The thing is full of perfectly good oil (that would contaminate everything of you sank it), but which can pay for part of cable repairs, once nobody pays up from the Cook Islands or the "owner" company.
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