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Summary

China imposed sanctions on seven U.S. and allied companies, including Raytheon Canada and Aerkomm Inc., due to recent U.S. military aid and arms sales to Taiwan, as well as provisions in the U.S. defense bill against China.

Sanctions include asset freezes and bans on business dealings in China.

This follows President Biden authorizing $571 million in military aid and $295 million in arms sales to Taiwan.

Beijing condemned the U.S. for violating agreements, interfering in domestic affairs, and increasing tensions over Taiwan, which China claims as its territory.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 43 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Taiwan needs to be internationally recognized as a sovereign nation, fuck the one China policy. Reality is that China had a civil war that split the country into what is now two separate countries.
We should not encourage Chinese war mongering, and constant threats against Taiwan, and grant their unreasonable claims any legitimacy.
It's very clear that by any measure that counts, Taiwan and China are 2 different countries and even different cultures by now.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago

100%. Unfortunately, Trump already expressed intentions to pull the US Navy out of the Taiwan Strait. That would immediately turn over control of Taiwan’s trade route to China.

Biden was quick to lock down Taiwan’s domestic production subsidy before Trump took office as a way to keep open a financial pipeline to Taiwan even if Trump cuts their support.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 22 hours ago

The sad reality is that Taiwan doesn't want this. Most Taiwanese would eventually like to see it, but the fear of reprisal by China means they do not today claim to be an independent country. And I don't think it's right for anyone else to declare independence for them against their wishes.

Countries should continue to treat Taiwan as the independent country it is, including maintaining de facto embassies, treating them as independent for all foreign & trade policy, and aiding them in their self defence. But not officially recognise it until such a time as Taiwan wants that.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

We still don't have to recognize the One China policy. It's that kind of ambiguity that led to Russia invading Ukraine.
And China is behaving in much the same way, which they didn't use to in the past. But it's gotten worse under Xi.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 19 hours ago

Long term, I agree. One China is a ridiculous fantasy with no relationship to the real world.

But right now, Taiwan is terrified, and rightly so, that China is going to violently invade them. And even people in Taiwan who are pro independence largely would rather maintain the status quo than risk antagonising China any more than strictly necessary.

We should ensure Taiwan is as able to defend itself as possible, and should be prepared to aid them if necessary and ensure China knows that would happen if they invaded. But we should let Taiwan take the lead in terms of determining how they want to be perceived on the world stage. And that means not officially recognising it unless they first declare official independence.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago

But right now, Taiwan is terrified, and rightly so,

Yes that's very understandable, Xi has really turned up the heat for some reason. What is it with those sociopaths? How is China not big enough as it is. The revolution won over the old regime.
I don't see how denouncing the One China policy would threaten Taiwan, it's a signal to China that they should behave.
I also don't think we should repeat the mistakes we did with Ukraine, that made Putin think he could invade without much problems from the west.
I would really really love to cooperate with China, there is so much potential in that, but we can't accept China threatening peaceful neighbors, remember it's not only Taiwan, but also other neighbors that feel threatened regarding China's expansionist policies lately.

We should ensure Taiwan is as able to defend itself as possible,

Absolutely.

They are a de facto independent country under the banner of "Republic of China" (ROC) currently existing as a rump state with the only remaining area under ROC control being Taiwan and Kinmen Islands collectively known as the "Free Area of Republic of China".

A rename to "Republic of Taiwan" wont improve their situation much, the US will still be too afraid to officially recognize this nation, so would most of Europe. All it brings is more fuel for the Wechat propaganda machine and justify a nationwide mass conscription in China and an immediate invasion of Taiwan.

If Taiwan knew they had the support, they would've already be names "Republic of Taiwan" but here we are...

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 23 hours ago

The seven companies being sanctioned are Insitu Inc., Hudson Technologies Co., Saronic Technologies, Inc., Raytheon Canada, Raytheon Australia, Aerkomm Inc. and Oceaneering International Inc., the Foreign Ministry statement said. It said that “relevant senior executives” of the companies are also sanctioned, without naming any.

In other words, "we've already stolen all the intellectual property we need from them."

this post was submitted on 27 Dec 2024
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