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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 152 points 6 days ago

I had a shower thought the other day that if more CEOs were shot dead, there'd probably be less Return to Office.

People are sometimes like "oh but violence is bad!" but ignore all the casual harms inflicted on people by capitalism and friends.

They also ignore all the freedom of the lower classes which was won through violence against the upper class.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

When the people in charge refuse to listen, the only tool left is violence.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 3 points 4 days ago

One dead CEO caused so much unity on health reform. Never seen anything like this in my life time.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 43 points 5 days ago

They also ignore literally all of human history when they say shit like that. Hell even the civil rights movement only worked because of Malcolm X's threat of violence.

[-] David_Eight@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

They weren't just threats, there where riots all over the country.

[-] MinFapper@startrek.website 20 points 5 days ago

Nah CEOs will mandate RTO for workers while they themselves stay remote.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 20 points 5 days ago

They can be killed in their homes, too.

[-] __nobodynowhere@startrek.website 12 points 5 days ago

So no change?

[-] DerKommissar@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago

The (attitude) Adjuster goes blam.

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[-] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 32 points 5 days ago

Yeah, then they lose all their best and brightest who are disappearing off to work on their own things.

All these idiot C-suite trash will wind up holding is a bag of yesterday's technology, a mass of obsolete infrastructure and a bunch of brands they've helped destroy.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 days ago

It is by design. Pool a bunch of money, buy companies to bleed them dry. Wait for new companies to take their place, rinse and repeat.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Eh... You can run a company without the best or brightest nowadays. Mediocrity gets the job done, mostly.

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[-] DeadWorldWalking@lemmy.world 92 points 6 days ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 4 points 4 days ago

Why do you think the mega rich are so keen to invest in robotics? With AI and robotics, there is no palace guard that’ll turn sides when everyone’s had enough.

[-] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 96 points 6 days ago

I’m in management now but I say go get ‘em please.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 63 points 6 days ago

most management I would assume would be with the workers. If your not c suite your nothing.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 17 points 6 days ago

Tech is a bit different because a significant portion of your compensation comes as stock when you get higher up the ladder but yeah.

[-] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 5 days ago

Stock options and grants are a tool to trick you into accepting lower pay and conflating your interests with those of the capital class. (Speaking as someone who has received both!)

[-] huginn@feddit.it 6 points 5 days ago

Yeah I'm speaking from experience here in that about a third of my pay is in stock.

I wouldn't say my pay is low though, for what it's worth.

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[-] const_void@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 days ago

H1Bs are fine with coming into the office and won’t put up a fight with any corporate policy….

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yup every time I see H1B I replace it in my head with tech slave. They're paid, but the deck is so stacked against them they effectively cannot refuse anything. ANYTHING. A well informed H1B worker might score a chance at permanent residency for some of the abuse they suffer. But mostly it's just years of abuse with very strict rules to get their residency.

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[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 59 points 6 days ago

Meanwhile Accenture has 1400:1 CEO-to-worker pay ratio.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 65 points 6 days ago

Fingers and toes crossed, get'em for every last penny!

[-] chobeat@lemmy.ml 70 points 6 days ago

luck is not gonna help. Only action and organizing can save us. Join a union too.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

Oh, I would if I lived in a place which had such movements, believe me... As it is, all I can do is wish for Lady Luck to smile upon those who have the chance! Sure, it's a bad idea to bank everything on luck, but it can never hurt to have some on your side!

[-] chobeat@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago

where do you live? The tech workers movement is reaching pretty much everywhere there's tech production.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

Romania. There haven't been any significant developments in this sense around here, at least not as far as I know. Each company around here has a Wagers' Rep of sorts and they gather with other such Reps and discuss wage related stuff, but it's nowhere near as elaborate as a Union, nor has it ever felt significant in any relevant way.

Most people have kinda'... given up on this country. Everyone scrambles to eject themselves abroad as soon as humanly possible. Can't say I blame'em.

[-] chobeat@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 days ago

Are you aware that Romanian IT sector has the highest rate of unionization of any IT sector in the world? SITT is a case study studied all over the world. https://transform-network.net/blog/interview/the-romanian-it-workers-labour-union-showed-that-everyone-can/

It might not be the sexiest, most modern radical union, but it is a case of success with numbers to show. Maybe you can start from there.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Huh, I honestly had no idea, thank you! I'll certainly start looking into it! Perfect timing, too, quit my job so I could focus on trying to get into stuff like this!

I sure hope the fact that it isn't common knowledge (at least not among most of the people with whom I've worked during the past decade) is down to them being effective and not it being a hopeless cause, though... Speaking from personal experience (and I leave room for doubt because I have notoriously bad luck in general), it sure didn't feel all that grand working in this industry. Not about the work in itself, but the practices...

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[-] Azal@pawb.social 5 points 4 days ago

Look, I'm kind of an outsider on this conversation because until we get a DaVinci for mechanical work, I'm never going to be WFH, but there's something interesting I've noted with all my programmer friends.

The industrial world, that's where unions are, they're getting pulled out but that's the places unions live. The people working in stores are starting to push hard on unions. My industry, biomed, hasn't really gotten unions off the ground, but it's rumbling. We're a small industry that's so short on people it's just easier to move jobs than start a union, but we're a mix of tech and industrial backgrounds. But the programming tech backgrounds, at least here in the midwest, is apparently so anti-union I don't know how it'd get off the ground from what I'm hearing from my friends. Their coworkers who are mad about RTO will immediately turn around and say the corporate lines about unions. I'm honestly kinda baffled and hope your industry gets it figured out.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago

They're just trying to scare the Americans out of the office so they can replace them with cheaper H1Bs who won't talk back.

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