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[-] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

The amount of typos in the cease and desist letter is staggering. I cannot imagine any lawyer could produce that, must be copied by the apprentice journalist on duty, with a tight deadline.

[-] SloppyPuppy@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

They were real mad when typing that

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

They got ChatGPT to write it for them.

[-] polluteyourjorts@lemmy.one 241 points 1 week ago

Good. We need to end the dealership model of car sales being required in most states.

[-] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 79 points 1 week ago

There are countless unnecessary restrictions on goods, and I’d argue that about 90% of the laws and regulations surrounding them should be rewritten or scrapped entirely. Take Florida’s alcohol laws, for example: liquor must pass through at least three different hands before it can be sold to a consumer—Manufacturer > Distributor > Retailer > Customer. I once worked for a retailer in Florida, and I couldn’t understand the logic, especially since my company also produced its own products. Even though they were both the Manufacturer and Retailer, they still had to use a distributor just to sell their own goods due to this outdated system.

Sure, they justify it by claiming it’s a leftover from Prohibition, but that’s a weak excuse. Yes, there was a black market for alcohol back then, but Prohibition ended 91 years ago. How have we not figured out a better way to handle alcohol sales in nearly a century? The answer is simple: it's part of the system by design.

Car dealerships operate in much the same way. There’s no reason cars can’t be sold directly to consumers, as long as manufacturers have the necessary distribution infrastructure. Regulations should be enforced at the point of manufacture or import, and sales tax should be collected by the seller and then remitted to the federal government. For foreign manufacturers, if they want to sell in the U.S., they should be required to register in whatever state they choose, regardless of sales volume.

And here's the kicker: What's to stop the company I worked for from setting up a shell distribution company, acting as their own intermediary, and inflating the price to sell it to themselves as the retailer? They could then mark up the price again before selling it to you, essentially bypassing any real value or competition while still skirting around the system.

[-] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Because the state decides who and how many distributors there are and the current ones already pay their annual bribes to the right people to keep their monopoly

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[-] DickFiasco@lemm.ee 224 points 1 week ago

If dealerships are pissed, I can almost guarantee that this will be good for the consumer.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago

Any good car dealership saw the writing on the wall a decade ago. The last time I was looking at buying a car the best ones wanted to work with me even if they didn't have it in inventory. They would get me whatever I wanted (within manufacturer trims and specs) and were upfront about wait times and transfer/shipping prices. Basically they were already transitioning to being a buying agent.

The worst ones were trying to shout/quick sell me on the most expensive thing they had, that they thought I could afford.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 points 6 days ago

I can't complain about the dealership I bought my car from at all. They were straight with me when I purchased it and have been awesome when going to them for service. Yeah, they overcharge for some simple things I can do myself anyway but for the major stuff I had them do they were comparable to what other shops in my area were quoting me.

[-] DickFiasco@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago

The last time I bought from a dealership was 12 years ago. The experience was so off-putting that I've exclusively gone to small used car dealers since then where the salespeople have been surprisingly more honest and less obnoxious. I felt like the dealership would've literally pickpocketed me if I had let my guard down.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

I had a new car place tell me I had to sign a sheet saying I would say yes to any "reasonable deal" in order to do a test drive. I walked out laughing after the test drive because they refused to even consider selling me a different car.

Another place tried to sell me a new car while I was getting maintenance done on the old one. That guy was super surprised when I walked out mid sales pitch. He thought if he could just talk fast enough he'd have me in a new car with none of my requirements before the old one was even done getting worked on. That was also a fully loaded something or other.

A third place tried to shark attack me. Literally had 3 guys doing the passive aggressive loud tone telling me I couldn't buy a hybrid anywhere in the US. Well that hasn't worked since I was 17 at basic training.

A fourth place put an Internet ad up for a no frills car at MSRP. I emailed and had conversations where they said it was available. I showed up and oops, all they had was the fully loaded version.

What really makes me sad is they wouldn't do this stuff if it didn't work. People have got to learn to stand up for themselves.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

I showed up and oops, all they had was the fully loaded version.

...that they were willing to sell at the price advertised for the no frills version, right? /dreaming

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

That last scenario is a classic bait and switch and is illegal. The state would be very interested in hearing about it.

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[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Yarp, that's why the dealers in Florida wrote a bill for Florida to ban direct to consumer sales on most vehicles. (An exception was left for certain cars like Tesla's... Which Desantis owns)

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[-] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 116 points 1 week ago

Dealerships can get fucked. They are a cancer on American society, and nobody wants them.

[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 83 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fuck 'em.

Maybe dealerships served a purpose at one point, but today they are totally unnecessary. They are needless middlemen who exist only to jack up the price of vehicles.

Edit: this is the bullshit that needs to be undone. Dealerships should not be protected by unnecessary laws that force consumers and producers to use them.

Autoblog reports that the California New Car Dealers Association claims the direct sales strategy violates a 2023 amendment to California’s State Vehicle Code which prevents automakers and their affiliates from bypassing their franchise dealerships.

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[-] Thewhizard@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago

I have a friend who is related to a guy who owns ~12 car dealerships and that guy is FILTHY rich. As in: 3rd home in Telluride CO is a 5,000sf “cabin.” Owns two small yachts.

But also, imagine a job market suddenly flooded by car salespeople… shudders

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

We're going to need someone to pick lettuce in Salinas once Trump deports everyone who knows how to do that work.

[-] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago

I mean, there shouldn't be less sales people, just they'll work for the manufacturer interested in getting more of their inventory sold rather than a slimeball third party interested in predatory lending, needless add-ons/ accessories, and inflating the prices of already expensive vehicles so they can parasitize a few dollars more.

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[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

Fuck the stealerships.

All Carsalesmen Are Bastards. Defund the dealerships.

[-] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 18 points 1 week ago

These connections, the association contends, make Scout an affiliate of Volkswagen rather than an independent startup like Tesla. A crucial difference may be that Tesla is grandfathered in the 2023 amendment to the California law whereas Scout Motors is not. In addition, Tesla had no existing vehicle manufacturing operation when it began selling electric cars.

Ah, that's why there's an issue.

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