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[-] psud@aussie.zone 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I wonder if Musk's heavy right wing position is one of:

  • just him trying to sell more cars (to people who subscribe to right wing positions, as well as left wing people buying them for environmental reasons)
  • fun, seeing how much he personally can fuck things up
  • because Heinlein said in several books that authoritarianism is good for business
[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

He gathered the wealth and realized his life is empty and people still cringed when he walked in a room and left in disgust when he spoke. In general, folks on the left, who were more associated with tech until recently, are typically more educated and don't blindly cheer at catch phrases and bumper stickers without any depth in their support - The right wing does.

elon wants friends and a dad who will love him, the right wing will pretend as long as the money flows.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

I disagree that tech is more left wing, a lot of them are very religious - evangelical or Mormon or believe in ultra capitalistic Ayn Rand fantasies.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

You missed my comment

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

He was never really liberal, but he had a nasty divorce and went mask off because of it. Same thing happened to Scott Adams. Adams was never really pro worker. He just repeated the stories people would send him and kept doing it because he liked the attention, causing a feedback loop. Musk had that going with the EVs and Mars mission talks. But he kept getting criticism over dates being missed and the divorce cracked him. He then started seeking approval from a less scrupulous group.

[-] hernanca@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

He's really just that brain damaged. A couple of weeks ago I read a book about his takeover of Twitter and even his day-to-day behaviors are completely unhinged. He is surrounded by sycophants and weirdos and has lost touch with reality years ago.

The book is "Character Limit" by Conger and Mac.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 4 points 6 days ago

I wanted to read that book, so is it worth? Do you recommend it?

[-] hernanca@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Yeah, it's really great journalistic work. The authors talked to a lot of people to get their side of what happened.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

My local library has it on an app called Libby. You might be able to check it out that way to see if you're into it. :)

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Corporations are often the most authoritarian structures on the earth. We just tolerate them for dumb reasons (being told there's no alternative to capitalism).

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

While those might be reasons, he has claimed its because of his trans daughter. It's a pretty disgusting stance.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/aug/09/elon-musks-journey-from-humanitarian-to-poster-of-rightwing-memes

Emphasis mine below

According to his biographer, Walter Isaacson, around this period Musk began sending “rightwing memes and conspiracy theories” to Grimes, who replied: “Is this from 4chan or something? You’re actually starting to sound like someone from the far right.”

At the same time, his daughter Vivian came out as transgender and changed her name, declaring that she no longer wanted to “be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form”.

Musk himself has cited Vivian as a reason for his political shift, telling the pop psychologist Jordan Peterson that he had “lost [his] son [sic], essentially”, and concluding that his son “is dead, killed by the woke mind virus”.

[-] madjo@feddit.nl 9 points 6 days ago

I was in the market for a new car. And Tesla was not even on my long list of cars to consider, precisely because of Herr Sturmbahnführer Musk.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

Tesla sales is down in Europe precisely because of Musk while competitors thrived.

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

The free world is being torn to peices by the Russian Mafia and its American Oligarch allies.

[-] RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

Nazi apartheid baby

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Remember when Kanye "went away" after pro-Hitler comments?

Let's see if Musky goes all the way.

Edit: a ? mark

[-] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Did he really go away? Or was he just ignored enough?

[-] boaratio@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

I won't be happy until every article headline written about space Karen refers to him as Adrian Dittmann.

[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 days ago

The AfD ist a spark of hope for him, as they want to leave the EU so one less country he doesn't have to worry about EU rules and regulations.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

And Germany is the most influential and richest EU country at the moment, so the loss of Germany will be a heavy blow for the EU.

[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 19 points 6 days ago

It's not going to be a heavy blow, it's going to be disastrous. Not only because of the economy, but the infrastructure the country provides. A massive amount of goods is transported through germany on rails and on streets. If we have to start controlling borders and charging money (which is what will happen), it would hurt the entire european union. Now, if italy with it's rightoid government is having the same idea and leaves the EU (because that's kinda what rightoids do these days), europe is literally halved in the middle.

Idk why people think leaving the EU is going to solve our problems, it's going to literally fuck us in the ass. We can even see what happened with a country that left the EU not even 10 years ago.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 7 points 6 days ago

Yeah the U.K is currently an Exhibit A for "See why this was a terrible idea?!"

It's amazing how these people repeatedly bark for their billionaire masters thinking one day they'll be worthy of scraps.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Idk why people think leaving the EU is going to solve our problems, it's going to literally fuck us in the ass.

These far right populist parties would probably leave the EU, if majority of Europeans want to leave. But the majority of Europeans want to remain. What the far-right European parties do instead is adopt the narrative of "fortress Europe", that immigration should be restrictive and Europe remain "largely European".

[-] aggelalex@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

American spotted. Opinion rejected.

[-] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Only a recent American.

[-] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Extremist's gonna extreme.

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Done you mean adrian dittmann?

[-] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I wouldn't see it too tragic. Those who would support AfD already do, and the rest won't change the mind because of an article written in a lunatic's name. If he threw considerable amount of money at AfD, I'd get a bit concerned, but in a functional multi-party democracy, especially one with a nazi past, a nazi party would never be invited into a government unless it won an outright majority.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago

counterpoint: Donald Trump

[-] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

The key phrase is "multi-party democracy". I guess I should have also added "parliamentary" into that phrase. Political systems with a single winner are far more prone to electoral manipulation than systems where a coalition government is the norm.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 111 points 1 week ago

I did nazi that coming

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago

The president is a Nazi. My grandpa would be rolling in his grave.

[-] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago

My grandpa should be rolling in his recliner. Instead he's got fox news on all day.

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[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 71 points 1 week ago

Shocking.

Remember when he used to say he was a socialist? And literal morons believed him? It might have been when I realized how stupid and easily swayed most of the population is with obvious and blatant propaganda.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

He told it in a joky-way actually, so people that read his surrounding tweets knew he wasn't without even knowing his politics.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 6 days ago

Lots of people believed it though.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago

He also said he was a "free speech absolutist." Then he banned the guy who showed the publicly available info about the location of Elon's private plane. Then he banned the reporters who reported on that.

And that's how he started down the road to Twitter as it is now.

[-] takeda@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago

That's even more tame, currently he was banning MAGA people for not agreeing with his stance on H1B.

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[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

He is a socialist! He supports the National Socialist German Workers Party!

[-] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago

I'm exhausted from all of this and it's not even January. How have we reached a point where Nazism is back in vogue?

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it.

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