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the new policy brought that number down to a single device per year

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[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago

Well, better than no bootloader unlocking which was the rumour going around.

But this trend is certainly saddening, and it feels like it's a matter of time before bootloader unlocking goes away altogether.

[-] supermarkus@feddit.org 7 points 3 days ago

tldr:

While earlier Xiaomi allowed users to unlock up to three devices per year, the new policy brought that number down to a single device per year and applies to both China and the rest of the world.

[-] tty5@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

In response my in-house policy has changed to allow purchase of 0 Xiaomi devices per year.

[-] Imhotep@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

I tried an unmodified xiaomi phone and couldn't believe how shit it was.
Ads everywhere. When you open the file manager you'd get a full page ad. That phone was a disease

No wonder they don't want people installing ad-free Lineageos on their machines

[-] herrvogel@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

You should have seen the pihole logs during the days my redmi made me wait before it allowed me to unlock the bootloader. It was shocking. That stock OS singlehandedly doubled the percentage of blocked DNS requests at the pihole. I was amazed by how insanely invasive it was. Kept asking me to create sms or email verified accounts to do super basic crap.

[-] rollerbang@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Which region? I've been on Poco/Xiaomi for years and I've never noticed ads.

[-] megane_kun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

I'll add another datapoint. I've had to do some effort removing/disabling OEM bloatware and adware on my Xiaomi phone.

To be fair though, I bought it because it has good specs for its price, and I was already aware of all the bloat and adware that came with it. The first thing I did after unboxing the phone is to just excise all of that shit.

Global version from the Philippines, if you must know.

[-] Imhotep@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

France

But it seems to be an issue elsewhere also

This is ridiculous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euRcPJF0Yrw

It absolutely is the same strategy tv manufacturers adopted that allows them to sell for so cheap

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

The restriction can prevent any abuses of the unlock system in making mass customizations to sell.

That's a value-add, not abuse.

[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 3 points 4 days ago

I don't have a phone from this brand. What system in place enforces this policy?

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 8 points 3 days ago

with xiaomi phones, unlocking the bootloader is not as simple as running fastboot oem unlock or such from a PC. The reason for that is that manufacturers get to decide how to implement those fastboot commands, and xiaomi decided to restrict it quite a lot.

my last experience was that to toggle on the switch on the phone that makes unlocking possible, you need

  • a xiaomi account
  • a SIM card in the phone that can send SMS
  • unfiltered internet connection (more precisely it will want to connect to a specific xiaomi domain)

then, you need to install the xiaomi unlocker tool on a windows PC, log in with the same xiaomi account as on the phone, connect the phone over USB, start the unlock process, wait like 2 weeks, and finish the unlock process with the same tool.

the unlock tool most probably just retrieves a secret code from xiaomi and passes that to fastboot, but you can't really get around it afaik, unless you want to risk rooting it through a vulnerability, which will still leave it locked

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago

Neither do I, but you according to this you have to apply for and request an unlock code for the device, as well that the device must be online to authorize the unlock. Pretty stupid if you ask me.

[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

online via a mobile data connection no less, presumably to allow them to reliably associate the imei to you.

[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They make you associate the device with a functional sim by forcing you to do the process over mobile data.
Presumably they take all the sims IDs, effectively making the limit 1 device per year per unique phone contract including data.
Going by my experiences with prepaid contracts (which got canceled due to low usage) I'd estimate that creates costs of 20€ per unlock in my region.

[-] DampCanary@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I have their phone and you need to use their windows app to unlock it.

[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 2 points 4 days ago

Thanks.

What prevents someone from creating an additional account on a different computer to unlock two phones in a year?

[-] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 4 points 4 days ago

Exactly what I’m thinking.

I don’t know how this works, but my idea is: create a new Windows install in a VM, download this software and then use a burner email if it requires an email account.

I’m not really sure how they could lock something like that down except the fact this is too much for some people or the fact that it’s something they need to think up.

[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 4 points 3 days ago

Yeah... Android ROM developers are really tech savvy with coming up with solutions. I am really interested in what holds them back.

[-] DampCanary@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I can't find it on my PC anymore, but it's ringing to me that you needed to login with your Mi account.
edit: plus wait 72h(?)

[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

Was a week when I did it some years ago.
The account is tied to your sim, you effectively confirm it by them forcing you to do the process over mobile data.

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I'm on my 2nd Xiaomi flagship and I think had to request unlock and wait for a day or so. Or use some trick to skip this step. So in theory after (if) I get my next Xiaomi 15 or whatever it will be, one unlock per year should be fine.

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Can I actually unlock it some other way?

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -5 points 4 days ago

I wish this is was China bad thing

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