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If it is common knowledge that shutting a garage door with a running ICE vehicle inside will kill you, why do you think so many people think 1 billion ICE vehicles aren't bad in the atmosphere? (lemmy.world)

submitted 6 days ago by LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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"But tires"

Ban all vehicles over 5000lbs to start without a specialized license and extremely heavy fees to have them. EVs are dropping in weight daily, ICE vehicles have been increasing in weight to dodge policies. One is a means to an end, the other is a means to profit.

Profit for few vs humanity's existance.. which should we choose?

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[-] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Most people don't think of that. Out of sight, out of mind. Our minds are better adapted to react to immediate, visceral threats (such as a garage full of exhaust that can be smelled, maybe seen). We need education to be able to understand threats that are diffuse over a large area or take long periods of time to manifest. Even with education, most won't react as strongly to a threat which has a high chance of reducing our lifespan by five to ten years, as we will to a threat which has a small chance of killing us immediately.

[-] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It's not the people don't think cars are bad for the environment. It's that people consider the nebulous cost to be worth the short-term benefit of actually being able to get places.

[-] TokenEffort@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

I think ~~$1000~~ $600 flat one time is definitely worth being able to get places via escooter. No gas, no insurance, no loans or leases (with the exception of Unagi scooters which are like $80 a month). Oh and riding boosts coordination while also not trapping you in a stressful metal box. One costs way less, is better for your physical and mental health, is easy to park in crowded places, but everyone prefers the opposite lol

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[-] kugel7c@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago

Both are primarily a means for profit, as most tasks accomplished with a car are more reasonably done a different way. The efficiency of road based motorised transport is so abysmal that it almost doesn't make sense.

The only reason we rely on it currently to such an extend is because our entire economy is highly irrational, except if seen from a supremely privileged point of view.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 6 days ago

What's a "butt tire"?

[-] navi@lemmy.tespia.org 3 points 6 days ago

Tires are a big pollutant (from wearing them down) and anti-EV people often day EVs weigh More, thus wear tires more, cancelling out any environmental benefits.

A bit forced and hogwash IMO.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Tire wear is a huge cause of particle pollution, but the wear depends on the driver right foot.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

One of the main reasons people use to say EVs are bad is that they currently weigh more than ICE vehicles. (Slowly being fixed transitioning to solid state batteries and finding ways to safely minimize weight). The extra weight means tires would wear out faster and tires put plastics into the environment.

Putting weight restrictions on vehicles would curb this and accelerate people transitioning to lighter vehicles.

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