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[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 137 points 4 days ago

When it originally launched, I feared it would go the same way as Valve's previous inventions in the VR

What the hell is she talking about?

Index still gets regular updates and it still doesn't really have any competition at its price point (Quest with its ridiculous account requirements doesn't count).

Just because Index was not a massive success due to its significantly higher cost doesn't mean it's a failure, and it's far from abandoned.

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 19 points 4 days ago

They barely did Steam Link (the little physical streaming box from like 2015) and ended production quickly and the remaining units were heavily discounted, and they still send updates for it.

It's one of many reasons I like Steam and have moved more towards Steam gaming and away from Playstation.

[-] Pieisawesome@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Steam link moved beyond its hardware quickly.

The link hardware is no longer required.

AppleTV, nvidia shield, chromecast ultra, he’ll even LG webos all have apps for streaming stream games.

They discontinued the hardware because it’s no longer needed.

In fact, when I switched to my appleTV for steam, it became even better quality and less dropped frames. It also seems to be lower latency.

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[-] Rageagainstbelief@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

How is the index? I’ve been thinking about getting one but I feel like there’s a new version right around the corner.

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 38 points 4 days ago

It's great, especially the controllers - there's nothing else like it.
And, well, it's the only headset making any claims about Linux compatibility, which is also a big thing for me.

But your concern is the exact reason I'm not sure I can recommend it.

Of course, Valve works on Valve Time, so the chances Deckard will release next month are basically the same as it releasing anytime in the next decade.

[-] EvilBit@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I actually spend a lot more time on PSVR2 than Index these days, and when I do switch back to Index, I kinda miss some of the features.

If money is no object, I think the current best arrangement is probably something like a Bigscreen Beyond with Audio Strap, Index controllers, and the requisite lighthouses. But that’s about $1600 compared to the PSVR2, which was on sale for $350 over the holidays. PSVR2 games are generally more polished, but you also don’t have the bonkers modding scene like PCVR does. You can run PSVR2 on the PC now, but most of the best features stop working. So there really isn’t a perfect solution.

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Bigscreen Beyond

Yeah, it does look pretty nice, but no Linux support, especially at this price, makes it a no-go for me. :(

edit: well, shit, apparently it doesn't do any proprietary bullshit and uses generic protocols, and reportedly works fine on Linux.
Might have to consider it after all...

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[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 10 points 4 days ago

I love mine, especially that I could custom fit lenses, so I don't need to wear glasses. Because that will damage the internal lenses over time.

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[-] kipo@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

I think she means it will be unpopular, unknown, or not relevant. I am a gamer with a Steam Deck and I had no idea what the Index was or that it even existed until just now when you mentioned it here.

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[-] sleepmode@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

When I got it I wasn’t sure why exactly. I have fast PCs, and my Switch is under a mountain of dust too. Now It’s one of my favorite machines. So versatile. My wife hates sitting at her desk for gaming so it has reignited her passion for it. And it gets me out of my office so we can hang out more when we’re winding down after a day.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago

When I got mine originally (pre ordered like 2 days in so I got mine 6 months after launch lol) I was doing a TON of travel and it replaced my switch

It then sat mostly unused for almost 2 years because I never gamed away from home and fuck paying for their dock

Finally got the JSAUX dock a couple weeks back and now it's almost fully replaced our entire main TV entertainment center

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

So fuck paying for the official deck, but … unfuck? paying for a 3rd party one? I don’t get it

[-] UnfairUtan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

The official one is more expensive

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

It comes with a 65W USB-C power brick, the same that comes with the Deck.

The 3rd party ones don’t.

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[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 11 points 3 days ago

Me hooking up my PC to the TV. 🤮

Me using Steam Deck to play on my TV. 🤩

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I sometimes use a steamdeck out and about but most of the time I use it at home streaming my desktop using sunshine/moonlight. I don’t notice the lag, just enjoy the high quality visuals and extended battery. You can even use wake on lan to wake up your PC from moonlight on the steam deck.

[-] bigustorm@programming.dev 7 points 3 days ago

Man, moonlight/sunshine was a gamechanger for my PC, I can play on my TV then on my phone then on my desktop, it's awesome!

[-] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Is this better than steams built in streaming system?

Honest question, never used anything else

[-] bigustorm@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Actually I don't own a Deck, though if it's similar to Steam Link on PC I'd say moonlight let's me tweak a little bit more stuff like bandwidth and allows for up to 120fps on all my client devices.

The setup process for moonlight/sunshine is pretty easy so I'd say give it a shot.

[-] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks. I'll look into it, I've got plans to repurpose an old wiiu into a deck-like couch gaming machine.

Right now my wife is using the Deck pretty heavily, so I'm using steam to stream a game to my old Chromebook, it's working pretty well actually 🤷‍♂️

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 4 days ago

I soooo wish I had a use case for one. They’re completely amazing devices and in my more mobile days, it would have been the perfect device for me. But now I’m home all the time and my partner and I have desktops set up next to each other, so I don’t have a use for one.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 54 points 4 days ago

The biggest thing for me is being able to put games to sleep and pick them up later. Being able to instantly stop playing a game, and then instantly start playing back at that same spot later has really freed me up to play in a lot of small sessions.

I've majorly cut down on how much time I spend on my phone, and replaced it with bite sized chunks of playing real games.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago

That is an awesome feature! I don’t find myself playing short sessions nowadays. That would be super useful if I did though!

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 9 points 4 days ago

It helps me play games that I would otherwise avoid on my desktop (usually low-requirement games like Vampire Survivor-likes or action platformers). If I gotta pick up a controller to play it, the Deck is probably better. I can also play in shorter bursts, so if I have ten minutes of nothing to do, that's ten minutes I can make progress on a game.

And because of that I've finished a lot more games than I did with only my desktop.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

Ask me how I have several Steam games with over 4k hours logged.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I have this problem... I ended up getting one anyway and do kind of regret it. It's a great machine and I've enjoyed having it for the occasional flight or train ride, but when I'm at home I'd rather just be hooked up to my desktop or TV. If I was still commuting an hour to the office everyday I'd probably get a lot more use out of it

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

If I left the house more I would 100% get one hahahaha

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago

I'm home constantly. I have a nice gaming PC with a comfy chair AND a nice big screen TV.

I got the original asap and then upgraded to OLED asap. Both were absolutely worth it. I almost play on it more than anything. I even stream the more graphic heavy games from desktop to Steam Deck, and stream PS5 or PS Plus Streaming games to my Steam Deck.

Handheld gaming is just nicer for me. More comfortable. More personal. I can see everything better. Everything looks more crisp on it.

I have no real use case for one and am basically never mobile yet I use it like crazy.

[-] xycu@programming.dev 5 points 4 days ago

I had a fairly opposite experience. I bought a Steam Deck when it first came out and had to return it during the refund period because of a software bug making it basically unusable with my account.

A year later, the bug was finally fixed and I rebought. And... I like the fact that it runs Linux and the efforts done to make windows games playable in Linux in general. But I've found that i actually don't enjoy the form factor of the Steam Deck at all.

I find it to be too big and heavy to hold comfortably without resting it on something. The buttons are tiny and too close to the edge. The d-pad sucks, at least on mine. Staring at the little screen gives me a headache and text/icons are too small in a lot of games. The Wi-Fi is really slow (at least in the original LCD model) and downloading/installing takes absolutely forever. I've literally spent more time installing games and downloading updates than actually playing games in it.

It has been months since I last turned mine on. In hindsight, it was a poor purchase for me.

I do still like it as a concept and an happy to see it is successful. I welcome the new Linux users. I follow the steam deck communities and read the news.

... But it's just not for me, apparently.

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[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

I used to think I didn't have a use case for one either but you know how sitting at your desk takes slightly more than zero effort? Well, that tiny amount of effort made it so whenever I actually sat my ass down, I would end up only playing "heavy" games like Skyrim while ignoring stuff like Bastion, Cuphead, Hollow Night, the LEGO Games, Pacman World, etc. Like, I'm not gonna drag my ass to my office to play Thimbleweed Park. Having a handheld got rid of that mental block and I've finally finished several games I otherwise wouldn't have, like pretty much anything that needs to be emulated. I even started buying games specifically because I wanted to play them on it.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

I understand, but I can use my desktop from the place I relax, in addition to my desk chair! I can play stuff from relaxation station with zero effort. I’ve only ever used my switch docked (and now I just emulate it for better performance.)

I’ve never personally had an issue booting up my dope rig to play Stardew Valley or Vampire Survivors!

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago

You're not the only one. I bought a Steam deck because why not. I didn't have a use case.

But every month for a year, I continued to play more and more on Steam deck over PC.

It's reaching a point where if i had to choose between upgrading my graphic card or buying the next iteration of a Steam Deck, I'm going for that next Steam Deck.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

That makes sense! If I ever used my switch undocked, I would maybe consider it. But 100% of the time I played it docked. My place of comfort is the room with my computer and some screens and the comfiest furniture. I don’t hang out anywhere else in my house and I’m a homebody, so I’m not gonna bring it anywhere.

If I’m gonna dock a Steamdeck, I might as well just use my dope computer!

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

I have a nice desktop, but I still play the deck. Sitting in a chair for a while gets painful at times, especially when you work from home ON a computer. Lol.

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[-] Templa@beehaw.org 3 points 3 days ago

Here we have desktops set up next to each other but since we work remotely we don't want to spent our time on the office all day, so we play things on the couch/living room and the steam decks are used almost all the time. You can basically run the game on your desktop and play it remotely on the SD, on hand-held mode or docked plugged on the TV.

It is also the perfect companion for travel. We had a 5 hours flight in November which passed very quickly playing Balatro, lol.

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[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 27 points 4 days ago

In way way did valve stop supporting streaming? Did they mean in-home game, remote play, friend remote play?

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 30 points 4 days ago

I think they mean how they stopped selling Steam Link devices. They still support the software side of streaming, they just don't sell dedicated hardware for it anymore.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 24 points 4 days ago

Didn't they stop selling the hardware because most users already have a phone, computer, or TV which can run the Steam Link app?

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 4 days ago

I think that's the logic behind it, but I get better stream quality using the dedicated box vs the app. Plus, can't do the Moonlight thing over the app, as far as I'm aware.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 10 points 4 days ago

I guess it's very dependent on what you're running the app on, and what else that device is running

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[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ngl I really love the Steamlink. I loaded Moonlight on it and it lets me play Xbox gamepass games on the couch from the PC too.

You gotta either hardwire it with ethernet cables or set it to run on dedicated wifi channels to get a good stream quality, though, and it's better suited for turn-based games, though I've played plenty of platformers and shooters on it too.

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 7 points 4 days ago

I like that she came around. It’s really nice to be able to game anywhere and some games are just better on a handheld.

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