Dammit! You WILL use this tech we spent billions on whether you want to or not.
My iPhone 13 mini will be my last iPhone. They lost me when it turned out they donate to illegal settlements in the West Bank. This is just more fuel to the fire.
Pixel with a custom ROM is the way
I love how Apple advertises "Privacy by default" but they do this
This is data stealing?
I don't even get it. Like, make a pop up with a short blurb explaining the feature. Most users will probably opt in, and you don't piss off the ones that don't want this.
An opt-out that you can't opt out of because Apple already opted you in and took your photos?
This seems like it is going to be a huge lawsuit. Since a class action won't deter them or help us, let's all sue Apple individually in small claims court and kill them by death from a billion cuts.
According to another comment, the photos never leave your device, that part of the processing is done on-device. The global index is on Apple servers.
Not saying that it shouldn't be illegal and it's shady as fuck, but GDPR opt-outs are usually retroactive, meaning you can remove consent from data they've already processed, and they have to retroactively scrub your personal data out.
How do they retroactively remove the knowledge the AI has gained from analyzing all of our personal information?
They don't need to.
They only have to remove your personal data. So the company / AI model is not allowed to have data specifically on you, but it can have the average age of people living in your town even if your data contributed to calculating that average.
That said, Apple here never had affirmative consent, so they can't get away with just doing this.
If they did this in Europe, I would argue it is a GDPR violation and it would be impossible for Apple to remove the data they collected. I hope the EU fines Apple out the nose for this.
Enhanced Visual Search in Photos allows you to search for photos using landmarks or points of interest. Your device privately matches places in your photos to a global index Apple maintains on our servers. We apply homomorphic encryption and differential privacy, and use an OHTTP relay that hides [your] IP address. This prevents Apple from learning about the information in your photos. You can turn off Enhanced Visual Search at any time on your iOS or iPadOS device by going to Settings > Apps > Photos. On Mac, open Photos and go to Settings > General.
Apple did explain the technology in a technical paper published on October 24, 2024, around the time that Enhanced Visual Search is believed to have debuted. A local machine-learning model analyzes photos to look for a "region of interest" that may depict a landmark. If the AI model finds a likely match, it calculates a vector embedding – an array of numbers – representing that portion of the image.
So it's local. And encrypted. How is this really news? Am I missing something?
Local and encrypted according to the company that just lost a lawsuit saying Siri totally wasn't listening to you
Well they settled for $95 million to avoid a trial… which probably speaks more about what they are hiding tbh
$1m to Trump and now this!
Where's the "Apple is the only tech giant that respects your privacy" crowd? Just because your data isn't being publicly auctioned doesn't mean they aren't harvesting it and infringing on your privacy.
I switched to iPhone from Android because I was tired of Google making changes to their security and APIs that were killing my macros I'd write for my phone. I was also tired of Google sending everything good to the graveyard. Finally, I hated that Google would promise features or support for x number of years and then pull the rug out from under me (although, lack of support was usually caused by the manufacturer)
Before spending $1000 on my iPhone, I told my wife that it was a good investment because of Apple's proven history of supporting devices with 5 years of updates; so we agreed that I'd keep this iPhone as my daily driver for 5 years because of the exuberant cost.
Well, my wish came true and here we are. I've got a phone that doesn't respect my privacy, doesn't respect my settings, has a frustrating UI/UX, and has low compatibility with most of my existing infrastructure. I gotta admit, though, my experience is far more consistent now, but not in a good way.
I cannot imagine spending $1000 on a phone in general. And even more so, I cannot imagine spending $1000 on a phone I cannot even sideload something like Newpipe on.
Since you are seemingly wealthy enough for this - maybe Pixel with GrapheneOS would be a right fit for you? Pixels also have longer support now (although I still think it's very short, so I'd likely have to switch to Lineage afterwards).
No one thinks Apple, or any other ecosystem for that matter, is completely private. It's just far more private than Android. Primarily because Apple is not an advertising company.
In case anyone came to the comments looking for directions on how to opt out:
For my iPad it was:
What does F.... stand for?
FUS monopolies - he's trying to use the Thu'um to shout them away.
Although this is terrible, once again a headline on lemmy made me paranoid only to find out that my phone probably doesn’t even support this.
Going through the settings and turning things off is second nature to me by now, it’s not unique to Apple (looking at your Microsoft).
What we need is an opt out mode on every device. Similar to the accept necessary cookies only, we need every device to let you fully opt out from everything it can when you boot it up for the first time.
The Fappening: Part II
"Apple is being thoughtful about doing this in a (theoretically) privacy-preserving way, but I don’t think the company is living up to its ideals here," observed software developer Michael Tsai in an analysis shared Wednesday. "Not only is it not opt-in, but you can’t effectively opt out if it starts uploading metadata about your photos before you even use the search feature. It does this even if you’ve already opted out of uploading your photos to iCloud."
Reading the article, the service itself is interesting and it sounds like Apple might have found a way to process the data while preserving user privacy, but the fact that they unilaterally opted everyone in without giving them a choice is the biggest problem.
That's Apple though. "We know what you want better than you do" is almost a company mantra.
Oops didn't mean to! /$
For-profit companies are perpetually locked in a conflict of interest. Inevitably, they will have to decide between what is in the best interest of their users (or other public interests such as the environment for example) with their never-ending obsession to make ever more money. No matter what they say or do publicly, they will always sell out for more profit.
In this case, a bunch of Silicon Valley investors (people who have collectively made trillions over every iteration of IT progress) are forcing "AI" to be the next thing. They have basically decided that they want all tech progress to focus on this area and are forcing every company they invest in to make that happen, regardless of the societal impact.
As a result, you can see clearly that all of these companies (Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Reddit) are basing all their business decisions into trying to make this fantasy become a reality. Even Apple now, the masters of creating a facade of privacy is falling straight into line. And the one thing they all have in common: investors.
And that is why you should always be wary of interacting with big business interests - they will inevitably sell you out someday.
Nothing but depressing news for common people all around.
To what end? They claim they can't read the data, nor the output, nor where it originated from. So... what's the point? If their claims are true then what is the point of all that data transfer, processing, and the massive engineering efforts they've put into it? If it's just so they can tag a location, then they could have just used geo location on the device without sharing anything. If it's to be able to search for " Eiffel Tower" and see pictures you have of it, well, haven't they already been able to do this before this feature with on-board AI processing that doesn't require the data to be shipped to Apple? Something seems off to me, but maybe because I'm not clear on the purpose.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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