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[-] Whateley@lemm.ee 3 points 8 minutes ago

Witness to me and I'll gore you with my horns. Bah.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 6 hours ago

I don't believe in a higher power. That's why I'm so fucking grumpy. It's certainly not because we can't have healthcare. It's not because of a genocide. It's not because workers are exploited. Not because our planet is destroyed. No, it's all because I don't believe in a cloud man.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 hours ago

But if you believe in a higher power you can tell yourself God works in mysterious ways and the genocides are to teach other more important people lessons because there is a plan and everything happens for a reason.

Then you can ignore it all and be blissfully happy in ignorance.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 3 hours ago

The original source for this seems to have been here. I'm fairly sure it's a parody site, but it's honestly hard to tell these days.

https://objectiveministries.org/kidz/crafts.html

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

I wonder what they think of countries around the world, like Australia, where "non-relgious" is on the way to being the highest self-reported group (38.9%) beat out by Christianity (43.9%), in 2021.

You're not considered "weird" by having any religious belief, but you may find it hard to make friends outside your religion if you're deeply religious.

There's honestly some stigma against it. Which is well deserved.

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 46 points 23 hours ago

I remember two adults acting as aegis for their child. The kid approached my door, handed me a flyer and asked me to come to his Jesus party. The parents were smiling hopefully. I have no idea what Jesus party even meant.

I kneeled and said flatly "There's no such thing as Jesus. Your parents and your pastor are lying to you."

They were HORRIFIED, the parents rushed up my stoop, the father literally grabbed the kid under his arm like a football and they fled.

Am I an asshole? No. That child needed to know he's being deceived.

[-] Umthisguy@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

Possibly unpopular opinion by a fellow atheist, but you're just as bad as a preaching Christian by doing that. Trying to turn others to your belief system, however right it may be, is shitty, homie. Way to ruin a kids party, when you admit yourself you didn't even know what they meant by Jesus Party. Made an assumption, ruined a kids week. YTA.

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 hours ago

The difference is OP didnt go knocking on their door spreading their belief. If they cant handle differing views fear of shaking their faith.... than maybe dont go knocking on stranger's doors preaching your beliefs.

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

True that the parents were using the kid as a shield. True that Our Hero turned the fire that should have targeted the parents onto the kid. ESH.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 hours ago

Nah. They knocked on the door and interrupt a stranger's day to sell Jesus. They need to learn to not do that if they're not prepared to deal with the responses.

[-] Retrograde@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago
[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 16 points 23 hours ago

They will never be able to take from that child, the seed of truth I planted in that moment.

Not trying to over-inflate the incident, but I remember being that young and looking to my elders for guidance. It would have been great if one rebel, at any point in my childhood, just said yeah I don't buy this shit either.

[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

This is a bit more insidious than it appears- because it's asking kids to rat out atheists to religious officials.

There are absolutely areas in the US where being discovered as an atheist will ruin your life.

[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago

I'll never accept any religion as long as atheist hate remains. How can you blame someone for not believing something with zero substantial evidence?

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 28 points 1 day ago

It's so fucking culty to prevent kids from getting information that goes against the religious leader's beliefs as well.

"Don't talk to the atheist! They might give you bad ideas that will send you to HELL" Literally preventing the spread of information that goes against their beliefs.

[-] IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 6 points 22 hours ago

It's called indoctrination. This is ironic as Christian Nationalists are in the vanguard against Transvestite Story Hour and panic over all the gay/transexual/satanic grooming that's going on.

[-] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 3 points 8 hours ago

It's only indoctination if they are do it. If it's us, it's education.

[-] IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 2 points 7 hours ago

TBH, it's all indoctrination, or non of it is. The word "indoctrination" has taken on negative connotations (maybe it always was a fright word). However, I think, focussing on the word and it's connotations is, perhaps concentrating on the wrong thing. I think the spotlight should be shifted to the content of how we bring up the kids.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 20 hours ago

The word "witness" caught my eye. Is this a Jehovah's Witness thing?

Are they using child labour to hand out their shitty pamphlets now?

[-] waggz@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

Witnessing is a generic Christian term that is based on Acts 1:8, it basically means sharing your experience and belief with others.

[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Or they are afraid of the atheist telling the child its all lies and social control. Thus way they encourage the child to self report in case there is even a slight possibility that the child might learn something other than the dogma they spew

[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

You cannot attempt to battle an atheist unless you're a level 10 Christian with at least a max level crucifix.

[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

That will only work if the atheist doesn't have any patients proficiencies, which comes with almost every athiest subclass. This gives the athiest advantage on charisma, intelligence, and wisdom saving throws from a character with the Christian class against the atheist. This is of course negated completely if the christian comes into the battle with the lawyered-up buff, but I didn't splurge on the LegalEagle's Book of Many Laws. So I'm not sure how that mechanic works.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 59 points 1 day ago

Avoid talking to them

Yes please

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I like how rational sorrows about the state of the world is considered grumpy compared to mindlessly giving away any responsibility by praying.

Raped your wife/daugther? Pray! Got raped by family? Pray!! Pillaged an entire workforce for every dime they had, killing some of them by removing healthcare/firing them? Pray! Having no healthcare on the deathbed? Pray!!!Be an drunk asshole abusing your family? Pray!!!!!

Shut the fuck up an PRAY!!!!!!

[-] frezik@midwest.social 30 points 1 day ago

Turns out, the Bible is wrong. The truth will not set you free. The truth makes you into a grumpy goat.

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[-] fnrir@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Oh shit. Atheist fursona.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

"Witness techniques ". = Regurgitating religious propaganda and "gotchas"

[-] Beaumont@lemm.ee 5 points 23 hours ago

I'm a Christian, the opposite happens as well. Why can't we discuss our beliefs in a civilized manner? I will never tell my "pastor" about an atheist or theist in my area. Especially considering I have atheist friends.

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago

I don't need to discuss your beliefs for the same reason I don't need to discuss the beliefs of the schizophrenic man that stands outside my building, clad in a blanket, shouting at the sky.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

"Why some of my best friends are atheists! I just don't let them anywhere near my kids."

[-] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

I have Christian friends. We all hang out because none of it matters. Sometimes we chat about it for the sake of chatting about it, but generally it's the last thing on anyone's mind. People who are vocal about their beliefs, one way or another, are annoying.

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[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I'm a grumpy atheist. Guess what, I was an even grumpier theist.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Believing that there was a god who could make life less shitty for everyone but simply chooses not to would definitely make me grumpier.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 118 points 1 day ago

They call me godless when they use Comic Sans top to bottom.

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[-] postnataldrip@lemmy.world 169 points 1 day ago

Avoid talking to them!

They might make sense, and we haven't finished indoctrinating you!

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[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 50 points 1 day ago

I have become a megatheist. I buy into all the gods.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Even the bible says there are plenty of side bitches. God just doesn’t want you to have any.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago

That doesn't even say you cant worship other gods, just that this god comes first?

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[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 1 day ago

What a self-tell.

"Everyone that I am aware of being member of a group, is like that."

Mhm I wonder how you know that they are and why they are in a mood like that.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Mr. Guff sounds too much like McGruff, that talking dog narc that works for the FBI.

[-] echolalia@lemmy.ml 68 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Holy shit. I can't believe I recognize this art.

This shit is ancient, and it was drawn as satire/bait. Nobody is handing out these flyers seriously. This post is rather embarrassing. Satire is dead I guess.

Edit: sources:

Source for text: scroll for text. I don't know where the goat went. This website is a high-effort satire page that hasn't been updated since like 2010. Looks real at first glance but just click around, it's clearly not a real church.

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