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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Very advanced witnessing techniques are required, such as compromat or threat of hanging.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 day ago

I don't believe in a higher power. That's why I'm so fucking grumpy. It's certainly not because we can't have healthcare. It's not because of a genocide. It's not because workers are exploited. Not because our planet is destroyed. No, it's all because I don't believe in a cloud man.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

But if you believe in a higher power you can tell yourself God works in mysterious ways and the genocides are to teach other more important people lessons because there is a plan and everything happens for a reason.

Then you can ignore it all and be blissfully happy in ignorance.

[-] Whateley@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Witness to me and I'll gore you with my horns. Bah.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I wonder what they think of countries around the world, like Australia, where "non-relgious" is on the way to being the highest self-reported group (38.9%) beat out by Christianity (43.9%), in 2021.

You're not considered "weird" by having any religious belief, but you may find it hard to make friends outside your religion if you're deeply religious.

There's honestly some stigma against it. Which is well deserved.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

The original source for this seems to have been here. I'm fairly sure it's a parody site, but it's honestly hard to tell these days.

https://objectiveministries.org/kidz/crafts.html

[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

I remember two adults acting as aegis for their child. The kid approached my door, handed me a flyer and asked me to come to his Jesus party. The parents were smiling hopefully. I have no idea what Jesus party even meant.

I kneeled and said flatly "There's no such thing as Jesus. Your parents and your pastor are lying to you."

They were HORRIFIED, the parents rushed up my stoop, the father literally grabbed the kid under his arm like a football and they fled.

Am I an asshole? No. That child needed to know he's being deceived.

[-] Umthisguy@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Possibly unpopular opinion by a fellow atheist, but you're just as bad as a preaching Christian by doing that. Trying to turn others to your belief system, however right it may be, is shitty, homie. Way to ruin a kids party, when you admit yourself you didn't even know what they meant by Jesus Party. Made an assumption, ruined a kids week. YTA.

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

The difference is OP didnt go knocking on their door spreading their belief. If they cant handle differing views fear of shaking their faith.... than maybe dont go knocking on stranger's doors preaching your beliefs.

[-] Umthisguy@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

When did he say they were spreading their beliefs? Didn't sound like they said anything about religion except that it was a Jesus themed party, and he didn't even know what that meant, it could have meant a lot of things.

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Unless the people were latino and the kid was named Jesus and there was a misunderstanding... pretty obvious what a 'jesus party' is.

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

True that the parents were using the kid as a shield. True that Our Hero turned the fire that should have targeted the parents onto the kid. ESH.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago

Nah. They knocked on the door and interrupt a stranger's day to sell Jesus. They need to learn to not do that if they're not prepared to deal with the responses.

[-] Earflap@reddthat.com 1 points 23 hours ago

Meh. If you come knocking on my door and tell me all about Jesus I'd probably tell you he's been dead for two thousand years. I don't have to support your delusion just because you barged into my life, and I think accommodating that bullshit just makes Christians worse.

Would I say that if I passed someone by on the street? No, of course not. But if you ask for my opinion you're going to get it.

[-] Umthisguy@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Yeah totally understandable. Except in this case, they didn't tell him all about Jesus, they invited him to a kid's party. And they didn't ask for his opinion, nor did they give theirs.

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[-] Retrograde@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago
[-] Krudler@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

They will never be able to take from that child, the seed of truth I planted in that moment.

Not trying to over-inflate the incident, but I remember being that young and looking to my elders for guidance. It would have been great if one rebel, at any point in my childhood, just said yeah I don't buy this shit either.

[-] Earflap@reddthat.com 1 points 22 hours ago

I'm pretty sure it comes from here: https://objectiveministries.org/kidz/

I want to believe its satire but I honestly can't tell. If it is satire it is exceptionally well done.

[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago

This is a bit more insidious than it appears- because it's asking kids to rat out atheists to religious officials.

There are absolutely areas in the US where being discovered as an atheist will ruin your life.

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 30 points 2 days ago

It's so fucking culty to prevent kids from getting information that goes against the religious leader's beliefs as well.

"Don't talk to the atheist! They might give you bad ideas that will send you to HELL" Literally preventing the spread of information that goes against their beliefs.

[-] IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 7 points 1 day ago

It's called indoctrination. This is ironic as Christian Nationalists are in the vanguard against Transvestite Story Hour and panic over all the gay/transexual/satanic grooming that's going on.

[-] Kornblumenratte@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

It's only indoctination if they are do it. If it's us, it's education.

[-] IcePee@lemmy.beru.co 3 points 1 day ago

TBH, it's all indoctrination, or non of it is. The word "indoctrination" has taken on negative connotations (maybe it always was a fright word). However, I think, focussing on the word and it's connotations is, perhaps concentrating on the wrong thing. I think the spotlight should be shifted to the content of how we bring up the kids.

[-] weeeeum@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I'll never accept any religion as long as atheist hate remains. How can you blame someone for not believing something with zero substantial evidence?

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[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 61 points 2 days ago

Avoid talking to them

Yes please

[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago

You cannot attempt to battle an atheist unless you're a level 10 Christian with at least a max level crucifix.

[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

That will only work if the atheist doesn't have any patients proficiencies, which comes with almost every athiest subclass. This gives the athiest advantage on charisma, intelligence, and wisdom saving throws from a character with the Christian class against the atheist. This is of course negated completely if the christian comes into the battle with the lawyered-up buff, but I didn't splurge on the LegalEagle's Book of Many Laws. So I'm not sure how that mechanic works.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 31 points 2 days ago

Turns out, the Bible is wrong. The truth will not set you free. The truth makes you into a grumpy goat.

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[-] fnrir@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

Oh shit. Atheist fursona.

[-] postnataldrip@lemmy.world 174 points 2 days ago

Avoid talking to them!

They might make sense, and we haven't finished indoctrinating you!

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[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 122 points 2 days ago

They call me godless when they use Comic Sans top to bottom.

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[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

"Witness techniques ". = Regurgitating religious propaganda and "gotchas"

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

The word "witness" caught my eye. Is this a Jehovah's Witness thing?

Are they using child labour to hand out their shitty pamphlets now?

[-] waggz@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago

Witnessing is a generic Christian term that is based on Acts 1:8, it basically means sharing your experience and belief with others.

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[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 52 points 2 days ago

I have become a megatheist. I buy into all the gods.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Even the bible says there are plenty of side bitches. God just doesn’t want you to have any.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago

That doesn't even say you cant worship other gods, just that this god comes first?

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[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

Yeah, I'm a grumpy atheist. Guess what, I was an even grumpier theist.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Believing that there was a god who could make life less shitty for everyone but simply chooses not to would definitely make me grumpier.

[-] echolalia@lemmy.ml 69 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Holy shit. I can't believe I recognize this art.

This shit is ancient, and it was drawn as satire/bait. Nobody is handing out these flyers seriously. This post is rather embarrassing. Satire is dead I guess.

Edit: sources:

Source for text: scroll for text. I don't know where the goat went. This website is a high-effort satire page that hasn't been updated since like 2010. Looks real at first glance but just click around, it's clearly not a real church.

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[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 85 points 2 days ago

witnessing techniques

I'm not even gonna ask.

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I like how rational sorrows about the state of the world is considered grumpy compared to mindlessly giving away any responsibility by praying.

Raped your wife/daugther? Pray! Got raped by family? Pray!! Pillaged an entire workforce for every dime they had, killing some of them by removing healthcare/firing them? Pray! Having no healthcare on the deathbed? Pray!!!Be an drunk asshole abusing your family? Pray!!!!!

Shut the fuck up an PRAY!!!!!!

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 days ago

What a self-tell.

"Everyone that I am aware of being member of a group, is like that."

Mhm I wonder how you know that they are and why they are in a mood like that.

[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

Why are they always so sad, or why are they so sad when there are evangelical christians around? Because I think it's the latter.

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