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Reposting this from here from 2023, after I stumbled across it tonight and it hits hard.

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I love my smart TV. I love the way it takes a long time to boot up because it’s trying to refresh the advertisements on the home screen. I delight in the way it randomly restarts because it’s downloaded an update without asking me, each of which makes the TV slower and slower with every subsequent install. I adore the way it buries the apps that I want to use, and that I use without fail every single time, below the apps that it’s being paid to promote and which I have never touched in my life and would never use without the cold metal of a glock pressed hard against my sweating temple. I am infinitely thrilled by the way the interface lags constantly, due to the need to have one thousand unnecessary animations rendered on hardware ripped wholesale from a ten year old phone. I feel myself borne aloft on wings of pure joy when I am notified that my data will be collected and analysed to determine my usage patterns. Even now I am writing this from a field of beautiful flowers and soft luscious grass as I lie and look up happily at the bright blue sky, smiling happily to know that this is the future of technology

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[-] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 4 points 1 hour ago

These fucking televisions have less ram than my fucking 8 year old phone

At some point it's just better to factory reset this bitch and paste an RPI in the back with my own android TV so it can actually run with 8gb ram 256gb space

[-] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Or: buy a computer, once

It's not that hard, the original author is just lazy or ignorant or both.

My smart tv is a mid ranged i5 from 2012.

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Electricity must be cheap where you are. If you have to use an x86 platform, please use a modern one that is both vastly more powerful and adept at decoding video while also needing a tiny fraction as much power and producing next to no heat and noise.

[-] Laristal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 hours ago

that and never connect the TV to the internet, it'll nag you occasionally asking if you want to connect but that's easily cancelled out.

[-] randomwords@midwest.social 21 points 21 hours ago
[-] Piece_Maker@feddit.uk 1 points 1 hour ago

At only double the price of an equivalently priced smart one! Bargain ~/s~

[-] oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 15 hours ago

Good luck finding them though, we've never found a place either offline or online that sells them.

[-] randomwords@midwest.social 2 points 14 hours ago

I mean you just click on the one you want and then on the retailer link. Here is Walmart.com's

https://www.walmart.com/browse/electronics/sceptre-tvs/3944_1060825_1939756_5735890

[-] oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 14 hours ago

That assumes we are in the US, whomp.

[-] perishthethought@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago

Good to know about, thanks a lot!

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 3 points 15 hours ago

Keep in mind that these are low-end TVs with, according to reviewers, generally subpar picture and sound quality, with quality issues that make them worse to look at than even old TVs. If you just need "a TV" and your only concerns are that the device is flat, the image in color and some sort of noise is escaping the speaker holes, they'll do, but don't expect anything more than that. To me at least, it makes more sense to not connect a smart TV to the network and use a separate streaming device attached to it.

I would even buy a slightly older used dumb TV from a reputable manufacturer over one of these sketchy things, since it's not like LCD TVs are finicky technology - they tend to last for an incredibly long time in my experience, easily 15 years or more. On my parents' 2008ish Toshiba (1080p and every analog and digital input in the known universe, which, in combination with an excellent analog upscaler, makes it awesome for old games consoles - but it's of course no looker in terms of colors by modern standards), the only thing that has broken so far is the spring of the power button, so I bent a wire press it in and a switch at the plug to be able to turn it off completely.

This is getting a bit off-topic, but a relative of mine replaced her flatscreen TV from 2002 (!) just two years ago - and it was still working fine, but since it only had an analog tuner and SD resolution, she was looking for an upgrade. I got her a small 4K OLED from Samsung (since discontinued) and she's very happy with it (even the "smart" features are quite inoffensive), although I did have to get her a soundbar as well, because if there's one thing that has regressed on TVs, it's sound quality, in part due to how ever thinner and lighter designs have reduced speakers to little more than phone speakers on some devices.

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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Luckily the YouTube app gets way worse with each update. Mine now tries to dark pattern you into signing in, and now features extra ads when you pause a video.

I'm switching to sideloaded SmartTube on a GoogleTV with Chromecast dongle.

[-] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 hours ago

I've been using smart tube on my fireTV for about 6 months now and it's amazing. No ads, so many playback options that YouTube doesn't offer, built in sponsor block is a godsend.

[-] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 4 points 16 hours ago

I'm actually quite happy with mine I don't think it's shown me a single ad, the only nuisance is it doesn't stay connected to my WiFi and only joins when I launch an app or something.

Its a Toshiba with Vidaa Os I think, not saying it's perfect it has all the UK channel apps but not Stremio which I would like it to have.

That said it hasn't done a single thing ad wise to annoy me unlike my firetv cube.

[-] Fridgeratr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I have a Samsung smart TV and the operating system on it is so annoying. It's so slow, has dumb ads, and I can't cast to it like at all.

I'm even more pissed that they just disabled the Steam Link app for essentially no reason; it worked great for streaming games from my PC.

I've been thinking it would be cool to flash a different OS onto it, but I'm not sure if that's actually possible.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 22 hours ago

I was dumb enough to get a random Samsung phone for a while. The ROM was on the SoC so it wasn't possible to change short of getting out an atomic force microscope.

Sounds like smart TVs usually have older hardware, though, which could actually be a saving grace.

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[-] COASTER1921@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago

Generally it's not too hard to disable the smart TV part of it and just use HDMI for TVs running Android. But on Roku TVs for whatever reason you need to connect them to the internet and a Roku account at least once to unlock the picture settings. Hardware features of a TV like brightness adjustment have no business relying on some random server.

[-] tree@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago

I wish there was a company like Fairphone or Framework laptops but for TVs.

[-] don@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago
[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

These don't seem to be particularly new panels. $600 and only 97% of the sRGB color space (= ~78% DCI-P3), meanwhile a similarly priced LG "QNED" can do 90-95% of DCI-P3. I'm not sure you can even call those TVs HDR if they're only 8-bit color. None of these models can even remotely compare to a brand new OLED TV.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 10 points 23 hours ago

I'm surprised nobody has yet jail-broken Samsung and LG TVs and made a custom Tizen ROM

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 6 points 22 hours ago

Probably too many models with too many varying components for anyone to bother trying....

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[-] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 16 points 23 hours ago

This is why I am dreading when my 2017 dumb TV dies. It's really telling that dumb TVs, which should be cheaper to produce and sell, are either not available or very expensive (as in commercial displays). Really proves the point that the consumer is really the product.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 95 points 1 day ago

Its only a matter of time.

[-] Niiru@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago

Insert verification can copy pasta

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[-] seemefeelme@infosec.pub 16 points 1 day ago

I never understood why people hated smart TVs until one day mine decided to install an update that presents me with advertisements and a hub screen when I turn it on. If I don't select something in time, the screen disappears, which locks all of the controls, and I can only reset it by turning it off and on again. Why??? Just why?!?!

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 22 hours ago

You know why.

[-] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 107 points 1 day ago

I remember the ancient times when you could buy something, turn it on, then have it do what you want it to do. Setting the clock was the difficult part. Other than that, it just worked.

[-] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago

Get in car after SO used it. Her BT connects. She goes into BT settings and disconnects. The phone auto reconnects. She turns BT off. The phone turns it back on. She is stuck in a loop. I can never connect phone ever again.

Technology is amazing.

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago

Learning ESPHome has been the most liberating thing. Take back control of your home. Local first. Privacy respecting.

[-] renard_roux@beehaw.org 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I spy a research rabbit hole in my near future ... 🐰

Edit: ESPHome is a system to control your microcontrollers by simple yet powerful configuration files and control them remotely through Home Automation systems.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago

Meanwhile, the marketing department reading this: "Boss! It's working! The people are actually enjoying it!!"

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 11 points 1 day ago

"Also, can someone get the engineering team on the phone to figure out that glock thing?"

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[-] Onsotumenh@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 day ago

I'm in the market for a new tv and all this crap just makes me want to scream in frustration. But prolonging the decision will just make it even worse.

On top of that my 2017 shield is starting to show its age and there is really no comparable 4k (streaming) alternative thats not a security risk. I feel more and more pushed towards piracy, so that I can use my linux box and decide how and where to watch content. I hate it...

[-] sanzky@beehaw.org 14 points 1 day ago

smart TVs mostly can be used as a dumb TV if you reject the terms of services when you set it up. I understand they are annoying, but people making such a big fuzz about them are clearly just fabricating drama.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

You don't even have to reject the terms of services, just never connect it to the internet. Not even once.

Won't even be able to send rejections to a server.

I can recommend TLC, they can be used as a dumb TV and never need an internet connection if you just use it as a screen. Wouldn't recommend them with internet though since the remote literally has a microphone build-in.

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[-] termus@beehaw.org 4 points 20 hours ago

We have an older 2012 1080p Sony 55" TV. Super thin, still works great. It had a few "smart" things it could do, like local tv guide, weather. Very simple stuff, nothing like streaming apps. Those basic smart things haven't functioned in a while. Support ended for them a long time ago. I've had a negative opinion for smart TVs since then. Having those functions sitting there broken drives me nuts.

We always used some type of streaming box. Started out with some Roku's for a long time that worked okay until they updated them enough to run like shit. Ads were never egregious but you could tell where the trend was going. A friend let me have an older Nvidia Shield TV. It was FILLED with ads for shit we didn't care about. Google Play store shit, Nvidia shit, advertisement shit, AHHHHHHH. It too eventually was updated enough to where everything runs like shit. I looked into a lot of self contained media systems from no names on Amazon, but I just didn't trust them. I could set up a PC to do it all and I'd be fine with it but my wife wants something easy to use.

Sooo I ended up going with an Apple TV. So far it's been really nice. Zero ads on the home screen. It lists the previous content we were watching and then our streaming apps below it, that's it. When you move the cursor over the Netflix or other apps it lists what you previously watched and some recommendations for other shows but it's not in your face or moving anything around to do it. There are some apps you can't remove, but I just made a folder and threw them all in there. It's nice but it's costly at around $140. So far for me, I'd say it's worth it. We only use Netflix, Hulu and Plex on it, but all of them work great. It also supports the Steam Link app. I use it some, but I've started to use Moonlight that is installed on my Steam Link device instead, since the picture and stream quality is a lot better.

[-] Swallowtail@beehaw.org 1 points 13 hours ago

I also have an Apple TV and like it a lot. It's the only Apple device I use regularly, I'm definitely not an Apple fanboy, just heard that run well and there was a specific app they support that I wanted so I went with that. Only thing I dislike is the remote. God that touch pad thing is awful. My wife says she thinks it's because my hands are big, but idk. But other than that, great experiences with it overall.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 day ago

Sounds like an obvious spot in the market for a bullshit-free smart TV. You'd just have to get the UX right.

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[-] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 1 day ago

Last I looked, we could still buy commercial displays. They're dumb TVs. They cost more, of course.

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