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[-] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

“I’ve talked to so many governors and congresspeople and senators and never once did they say Canada is the problem,” Ford told CNN. He emphasized that a bilateral deal between Canada and the U.S. would be a better solution than imposing tariffs on Canadian goods.

I'm no fan of Doug Ford, but he's right here. I guess Trump's plan is to drive Canada into the ground economically through tariffs then invade or otherwise annex Canada when it's too poor and desperate to resist. But why? It would be more profitable to both the USA and Canada simply not to do any of this. There are only two explanations I can think of:

  1. Belligerence is the only thing Trump understands, even when it works to his own disadvantage, because actual diplomacy is too complicated for him and soft power contains the word "soft", and/or
  2. Trump isn't working for the interests of the USA, but rather for those who want to see NATO and other Western alliances destroyed.
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I'm not super well-versed in Canadian politics, but isn't Doug Ford basically a mini-Trump?

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 18 hours ago

new england is right there canada like we'd volunteer happily.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Lamesauce, the correct response to anything Trump says is ....................................

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 16 points 21 hours ago

Watch out about offering to buy something. Sometimes they force you to go through with it.

Ask Elon.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago

That worked out for him.

He ended up owning the whole fucking country.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago

Or they add a lot more to the deal. New Orleans wasn't worth the rest of it.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 15 hours ago

North Carolina plox

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago

Yes, please buy Texas and Florida

[-] parricc@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

As a Texan, I'd fully support our state becoming part of a newly created Southwest Territories that is governed by Canada.

[-] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

I mean would you rather join Canada or stay in the United States. Because if Texas gets to join Canada, I'm moving to Texas.

[-] Ledivin@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago

How much control does Canada have over the provinces? Cause I'm not interested in slightly-Canadian Texas, they gotta go further than that.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 251 points 1 day ago

Following Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s resignation announcement on Monday, Trump claimed credit for the decision, saying that people in Canada “love” the idea of becoming a U.S. state. This prompted Ford to make his own comments about acquiring U.S. territories.

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Canadian MP Charlie Angus rejected the idea outright, pointing to differences in the nations’ laws. Angus stated on X that Canada has rules preventing “sexual abusers” from becoming leaders, a clear reference to allegations against Trump.

I would love to have seen Trump's face when he heard that rejection.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago

Aligations? Isn't he convicted?

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 19 hours ago

No. He was found liable for sexual abuse in a civil trial. Convictions are criminal and the standard of evidence is higher.

Basically the courts have decided that it's slightly more likely than not that he sexually abused Carroll, which is all that's needed to win a civil case. Criminal cases are on a "beyond a reasonable doubt" threshold which is much harder to meet.

Frankly, he probably wouldn't be criminally convicted because of the higher standard - the defense in a criminal trial doesn't have to prove the accused didn't do it, they don't even have to prove it's more likely than not they didn't do it, they only need to prove there's a reasonable doubt that they might not have done it. And I think there's just enough wiggle room around it he could possibly skate by.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 hours ago

On one hand, that's how a criminal standard of justice should work, to prevent wrongfully convicting the innocent.

On the other hand, that would require the system to be functional and fair in the first place, rather than being slanted towards who can afford the better lawyers, but that's a whole can of worms I don't think I need to crack open here - we all agree on that anyway.

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[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 day ago

I live in Massachusetts and would totally support seceding and going to Canada.

Can RI come along too? You won't have to worry about their terrible driving, they'd never drive out of the region.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Yeah but under Doug Ford? Dudes a moron who's made it his personal mission to spend money to remove bike lanes.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 hours ago

i mean toronto/ontario is largely anti ford.

[-] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago

They just keep voting for him, or not voting against him. Get it together Ontario!

[-] TheFin@leminal.space 1 points 19 hours ago

minor compared to the shit show coming up in the US

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

We need Vermont to join. It makes sense. Maple syrup monopoly to boot.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 18 hours ago

massachusetts has all the english names anyway it'd be easy to slap the queen on our money

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago

Stan Marsh? I thought you were in Colorado.

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

As a Minnesotan I'm okay with this.

[-] ploot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 13 hours ago

I don't think Canadians would have a problem with taking on Minnesota.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago

If y'all do a referendum, maybe they dont even have to buy it?

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Sadly it's completely illegal to separate from the US and most likely will result in the US military invading.

Except ofcourse if Trump sells it.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

It was illegal for India to declare independence from Brittian, but they did it.

Minnesota should do this nonviolently. Just secede and if the military invades, dont fight back. The world will watch as Trump uses violence against them, until eventually more States join either Mexico or Canada. Eventually the US will cease to exist, and the ICC will come lock up Trump.

It would be a beautiful, nonviolent end to the US Empire

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 18 hours ago

pff if it's new england new england would just be on the side of canada

source: literally me. i would do that.

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[-] lettruthout@lemmy.world 116 points 1 day ago

Instead, how about California, Oregon and Washington joining Canada?

[-] spiff@lemmy.cafe 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Seattlite reporting in. Cascadia Now! I support this and would love to be a part of Canada! Some of us in the PNW have been talking about this for a while now... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia_movement and https://cascadiaunderground.org/

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago

Canadian Californians? That would be totally cool, dude, eh!

[-] skysurfer@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago

If this means high-speed rail from Vancouver to LA, sign us up!

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 64 points 1 day ago

I don't mean to be depressing but envying Canada for its spectacular rail service would be inadvisable.

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[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago

Please sell Minnesota/Minneapolis to Canada. Please. I would much rather be Canadian.

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