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SteamOS expands beyond Steam Deck (store.steampowered.com)
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[-] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago

That's nice and all. But can it run Doom?

[-] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 9 points 11 hours ago

I think this is an incredible development, and will be a big boon for PC gaming on handhelds. Those SOCs/APUs are going to get better and better...

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 hours ago

But, can I install it on a badger?

[-] crossdl@leminal.space 10 points 12 hours ago

SteamOS is where I hang a LOT of faith now. Just, like, generally.

Here's hoping this is the beginning of a freer world from the personal technology standpoint.

I love my Steam Deck. I'm browsing the Fediverse on it right now. Desktop mode is a bit of that unpolished Linux experience you can get but it's really not bad at all. I mean, I fucking love it!

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 0 points 9 hours ago

To slot machines?

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 135 points 1 day ago

Here’s hoping it matures enough for desktop use by the time my Win10 desktop is EOL.

[-] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

Not necessary, you can use dozens of distros where playing Steam games is pretty much plug and play

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

What about my alternatively acquired games? I've tried using Mint and Steam with whatever that is that runs compatibility. Sometimes doesn't work for them.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

Heroic Launcher, Lutris, Bottles, or just launching them through the command line if you really want to for some reason, are your options. Heroic I just started using and it's great. It's especially good for games from other stores, but you can add anything to it. Lutris is pretty good, but you have to add everything manually (which you'll have to do no matter what for what you're asking about). Bottles is functional, but it is much harder to use than the others, but probably lighter weight if that matters to you at all (and I'll tell you now, it doesn't).

[-] b34k@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

What about non steam games? Maybe I’m in the extreme minority, but my most played games are things like Microsoft Flight Sim, DCS, Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, which not only have their own launchers etc (one of which is tied directly to MS), they also require peripherals… sometimes lots of em, that have config and/or telemetry software that is all built in windows.

[-] pathief@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Unfortunately this is one of the cases where you're going to have to do some research.

Check ProtonDB to see how a game plays on Linux. I'm assuming the flight simulator would be problematic.

Usually the periferal drivers are built into the Linux kernel. Your keyboard and mice will just work, gamepads as well. Niche stuff like wheels and flight controllers will likely not work out of the box and you'll have to find a community based software to support it. Sucks.

If I were you I'd boot a virtual machine or a live USB drive and try it out. If you're not comfortable with the amount of compatibility just don't install it. Nothing lost

[-] stuner@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Currently, my favorite ways of running non-Steam games are the Heroic Games Launcher and Bottles. Heroic is especially nice if you have games from GOG or EGS. However, looking at ProtonDB, it seems that both DCS and Flight Sim 2024 don't work too well on Linux. Overall it sounds like it might be challenging for you to switch to Linux, but you can always give it a try and see how much works.

[-] hunkyburrito@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

There are plenty of ways to run non-steam games and most games work out of box. Wine/Proton, the software that steam uses to translate windows calls to linux calls, can also be run outside of steam. Wine can also just run generic windows programs so config software will probably run fine.

The peripherals is where you may run into some issues as I'm not sure how well supported they would be on linux. I wouldn't know as I don't use any special peripherals.

[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

You can quite safely jump onto any distro recommended for gaming. From me I would recommend PopOS, especially when 24.04 releases - easy install and Nvidia drivers work out of the box, and the super rare issue Linus encountered is long fixed

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Anecdote alert: I mean, I went to Mint thinking this to be true. The first release I tried didn’t even support my (years old) WiFi drivers, and then the second couldn’t run levels in Hitman. (Bazzite did, however, so distro apparently matters)

[-] repungnant_canary@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Interesting, what year was that? Before Ubuntu shipped with pipewire by default I do remember it having the worst Bluetooth experience, so maybe something similar was the case with WiFi?

Anecdote as well: the non-working Bluetooth lead me to perform my very first (successful) dive into system files to replace Alsa with Pipewire

[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Man, Steam has a real opportunity here to make Linux desktops more palatable. Imagine a SteamOS computer that's as easy to use as Windows for people who don't know Linux...

[-] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

There are plenty of distros that have been doing that for years now

[-] Tankton@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago

Except not really and about half the time there are breaking bugs that the average person cannot simply fix. Shit gets serious when a company like valve spends a load of programmers on this and gets it up to standard.

[-] pathief@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

If you are tech savvy enough to install Windows, you can easily install Linux as well. If you install any of the big distros you will have a good time.

[-] Old_Yharnam@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

You’re either doing too much or using the wrong distros. Haven’t had breaking bugs for a long while using Fedora KDE.

It’s been nothing but as reliable as windows. Windows can have severe bugs too BTW

[-] pathief@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

It's not going to happen in this iteration of SteamOS. It remains mostly a gaming "only" distribution.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago

Dude, you don't need SteamOS for a desktop. Just download a more widely used desktop distro. I use Garuda, and it's great for starting up gaming.

SteamOS will be great for a console-like experience out of the box, which is not what you want for desktop.

[-] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 12 points 22 hours ago

That is exactly why many of us want it. We know what we’re asking for. And yes we know bazzite exists.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 14 hours ago

The comment above says they want to replace their W10 desktop, so it isn't what they want. If it's what you want then fine, but I was writing the comment for someone who wants a desktop, not a console. If you want a console, go ahead and wait or use Bazzite. If you want a desktop then the best options are already available and SteamOS isn't going to be it.

[-] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago
[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago

Bump for Garuda. It's decent, as simple as any installation I've ever had to do, comes well configured out of the box, and has a very active forum that the Devs keep an eye on and answer questions quite quickly.

[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I've heard linux has problems with laptops with Nvidia cards, like I have. Is this still an issue? I'm getting pretty fucked off with windows but frankly don't have time to embark on an ongoing technical challenge.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago

I've got a laptop running Garuda, it has and Intel APU(so integrated graphics) and a dedicated Nvidia 1660. Working better than with Win 11 on it. I did have to configure Heroic launcher to default to the dedicated gfx card, but that was about 7 mouse clicks tops. Steam games tend to just assume that you'll be wanting the dedicated gfx to do the work, but some games ask. That said, out of the box, I had to fight win 11 for about 25mins to get it to agree that yes I did in fact want the Nvidia card to be used to run games.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 14 hours ago

I think that's mostly fixed at this point. I have AMD, but I've heard Nvidia is handled better now. Nvidia keeps everything closed source, so everyone is fucked, but support is improving. Make a Bootable USB of Garuda (or whatever distro you choose, but Garuda Dragonized I'd expect to have the drivers) and try it out. It's very low effort to try.

AMD open-sources everything, so their stuff works everywhere. That's why FSR is always available, because it works on any device and is open source, so it's easy to support. DLSS only works on Nvidia devices and requires a lot more effort for developers to support, so they often only do it if Nvidia pays them because it costs them money to implement an extra solution and not everyone will even be able to use it.

[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Hmm yeah I was thinking about possibly trying to boot from a usb. Haven't done that with linux since the 90s, I guess I assumed the linux os thingie would be too big or too slow. Maybe I'll give that a try, thanks for the suggestion.

Yeah I've been out of the loop with tech for fuckin decades. Bought the laptop a while back without knowing about the Nvidia ting. TBH I mostly start the laptop up maybe once a week for spreadsheets, calibre, and as a file transfer medium. I'd planned on using it for gaming too but then I got a steam deck. But yeah, there's some stuff I can't easily do on steam deck and I'm really getting sick of fuckin windows. Every time I start the machine it's trying to install some new AI shit or something. I don't need that, just want a working computer!

But you're right - next time I buy a laptop - if I need to - I'm thinking AMD for sure.

Edit - also because of my living situation (I don't live in a house, all my electric comes from a solar panel) power consumption is a real issue for me. And that laptop is power hungry.

[-] pathief@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Trying from a USB or virtual machine is just a good idea in general. Use Ventoy to put several distros into a single USB stick and try them out. Try your hardware, check which UI you like the most.

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