Anti-Ukraine measures fall short, despite significant GOP backing (www.msnbc.com)

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[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

A separate measure, championed by Republican Rep. Andy Ogles of Tennessee would’ve ended a lend-lease authority to Ukraine, and it failed on a 71-360 vote.

Again, a casual observer might look at these outcomes and conclude that a handful of right-wing members pushed anti-Ukraine amendments that didn’t come close to succeeding.

They are not just right-wing. They are also traitors.

[+] whatsarefoogee@lemmy.world -16 points 1 year ago

Calling them traitors is a complete non sequitur. How does voting to stop supplying military aid to another country make anyone a traitor? That's nowhere near the meaning of the word.

And no, voting for things that can very indirectly negatively affect your country doesn't make you a traitor.

Also no, I don't support these Republicans. I support using the English vocabulary correctly.

[-] sycamore@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

When you support Russia you're supporting the enemy. The word traitor is correct.

[-] JoeyMoo@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

Damn I can tell you've been on Reddit too much...

[-] WolfyGamer29@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I used to scroll through youtube shorts a lot, and there was a guy who made skits about the "average reddit user" (total snob, actually just a regular nerd despite thinking they are somehow superior, extremely pedantic) and it was... so painful. So accurate. And so painful.

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 year ago

I both respect you calling out jingoism, and at the same time feel that the use of the term traitor may be preemptive but acceptable.

The defense of Ukraine fills a sad, vital role in US hegemony. Russia has been acting aggressively to all its neighbors for a decade, and this push, while it makes sense from their defense needs, pushes into the US sphere of interest in Europe by threatening allies. I both dislike the US role in world stability and how we use that power, hard and soft, but I prefer it to the potential alternatives. Since US aid is vital to Ukraine, attempting to cut it off would directly weaken the US position in the world.

On direct treason terms, I have serious concerns about the republicans ever since a group of republican lawmakers went to Russia over July 4th in 2018. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/republicans-on-russia-trip-face-scorn-and-ridicule-from-critics-at-home/2018/07/05/68f0f810-807e-11e8-b0ef-fffcabeff946_story.html) When does a republican miss July 4th in their district?