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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by SPOOSER@lemmy.today to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

I've subscribed to a plethora of communities that really interest me and actually have posts and discussions in them, but I have to go to the specific community to see this. My "Subscribed" feed only contains a few of the same posts that I've seen for weeks in Hot, the same posts from even longer ago in "Active", posts from the same communities as the ones in "Hot" in New and no other communities, and pretty much only posts from the Meme's community I unsubscribed from when sorted by "All". I also see a majority of posts barely have upvotes or comments on them at all from the "bigger" communities. Is this just the growing pains of this site? Am I still doing lemmy wrong? Is it the instance I've chosen to join?

UPDATE I want to thank everyone who posted and gave me helpful advice on this matter. It turns out that there are still lots of people here on Lemmy with me, I just couldn't see you because I was sorting my feed incorrectly. I'm excited that there are more people here and I'm excited to continue to contribute to Lemmy with you! Thank you all for the help, I really appreciate it. The solutions are to continue to subscribe, contribute to my favorite communities, and sort by top day, 12, and 6 hours. It really helped liven up my feed!

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[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago

You're doing Lemmy wrong, and it's not your fault. People keep saying "instance doesn't matter" - sure, you can interact with anything all over the main lemmyverse, but the best experience is to find a home server with a community that feels right. Subscriptions and the sorting will get there, but right now ALL (or maybe even local) is a way better experience

Here's the servers I checked out:

Lemmy.world

What I signed up on. The most people, the most content, civil community. Moderation is there, but you mostly feel it by the sense of civility. They keep getting targeted and they're experiencing a lot of hiccups, but they're the biggest source of content right now. Feels to me at this point

(Sh.itjust.works)[Https://sh.itjust.works/signup] About as close as you can get to freedom of speech while keeping out the aggressive bigots. I think one of their rules is along the lines of you can drop n-bombs or argue for whatever you want, but not use slurs against actual people. That says a lot... But they're great for shitposts and are experimenting with democracy at !agora@sh.itjust.works

(Beehaw.org)[beehaw.org/signup] I'd describe it as a safe space. Heavy moderation and curation of content. Those kinds of places feel uncomfortable and tense to me so I find it hard to give it a fair review. Not my thing, but they claim to be closest to Reddit... I'd give lemmy.world that title, but it was a big site and I was constantly searching out the medium sized subs.

(Lemmy.nsfw)[Lemmynsfw.com/signup] A stable server that will show you plenty of sfw content, and the community is welcoming. And of course, there's the obvious...

(Blahaj.zone)[https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/signup] The flip side of why I go to sh.itjust.works, lots of queer shitposts. I like the memes, I like the people, not so sure about the admin... She's been stirring up a lot of drama the last few days. Maybe there's more to it, I've mostly just seen her posts that look a bit power-trippy from a distance. I've also been waiting for that to happen to see how we as a community handle it, so

(pawbs.social)[https://pawbs.social/signup] This is my main home server now. A while back I came to realize furries are always big early adopters of every new tech, they're super welcoming, and they don't care if you're not a furry so long as you don't care that they are. I like the art anyways so it doesn't bother me. A lot of tech stuff too. They are most definitely furries though, and you'll see OwOs and all that comes with that. They're very chill, until someone isn't, so if you can't handle that you're going to have a bad time

(Lemmy.ml)[Lemmy.ml/signup] The original devs instance. They're going through some stuff with their domain and definitely anticapitalist, but after digging for evidence and talking to them they're far from extremists, but the constant stream of people heading over to there to pick a fight, the site was on edge when I went there a few weeks ago. A good place if you're into good faith debate on economic and governmental systems

lemmygrad.ml was a more extreme version (literally someone came in to start a fight in every thread i saw) they're understandably pretty wary. Their ideas are out there, but they're definitely not pro genocide and don't worship Stalin (at least as a whole).

Lemmy.ml I wouldn't pick until they get their domain issue shaken out, but I included them because after an afternoon trying to get to the bottom of it (the only proof of anything I found was a mastodon post about someone very vague about what was said and ending with "unfortunately the conversation was deleted"), so it seems to me they've been getting misrepresented. I'm very open to more concrete details though

(Dbzer0.com)[https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/signup] They sail the high seas. Less content, but what was there was pretty interesting if you're into tech, security, or digital rights

Those are the sites I remember off the top of my head after exploring around, there's >2k instances (although about 100 were populated by users when I went through the data dump a few weeks back)

If you're on Android, I'm doing bug fixes before launching my app very soon, and iPhone build is coming once I can get one to test on. I pushed back the launch to pack on features, I've got keyword filtering, you can explore servers without changing accounts, it saves your place, hides read posts, it offers URL replacement (I accidentally went to Twitter for possibly the last time today and YouTube yesterday, the logo change was worth it but nitter is less jarring).

You can interact with Lemmy links, collapse comments, post with a control bar that doesn't float around, save drafts, and it's all in a dark material-design style (but with way less cards). There's still a lot to be done, but after bug fixes and optimization v2 will be focused around combing feeds and accounts to get just the right mix. Eventually I've got eyes on pixelfed and maybe even things like friendica - the beauty of the fediverse is how amazing a foundation it is to build on

For today, there's still occasional bugs and jank, but at this point I can say it's pretty stable when the servers cooperate. I'll be covering for more and more of it through the client as time goes on, but for the last 2 weeks I've been using it exclusively. My friend convinced me I need to wrap it up and put it out there and get feedback, so

Check out !flemmy@lemmy.world if you're interested, I just posted some screenshots (it will get prettier, but hopefully it's good enough to not be distracting)

[-] CheshireSnake@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 1 year ago

In my instance, we use Arch.

Jk. We're pretty chill although we're too small to be anywhere popular. We like memes but not really overrun with it. The admin and the owner are nice and relaxed. Not much content since we're just a small group, but some members are pretty active in their communities.

[-] Tedesche@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for posting this! I realize it's just your assessments of these instances, but I've been interested to see summaries of what other instances are like, since I'm not completely satisfied with Lemmy.world. Having read your descriptions though, I think I'll stick with it a while longer.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Alternatively, lemm.ee, sopuli.xyz or reddthat.com could be interesting alternatives, pretty generalist too

[-] pinchcramp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you for taking the time and writing out such a detailed response 🙏

[-] miles@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Great instance review, thank you! FYI your markdown links are broken, switch the brackets, links are [like] (this) not (like)[this]

[-] yoz@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I needed this

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[-] Wander@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago

The Hot timeline becomes stale if the lemmy server isn't restarted every 6 hours or so, which takes 10 seconds but can't be done on larger instances such as lemmy.world because it kills the queue of outgoing activity.

This is a known bug and is being worked on. For the time being you should try with "top 6 hours" and "top 12 hours" sorting.

[-] SPOOSER@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago

I appreciate the sorting suggestion! I'll try that. I understand that Lemmy isn't as big as Reddit, but I swear there are more people than my feed is leading me to believe.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's been hard to look at all these posts about how big lemmy is and how fast it's growing, to watch the scale-up issues, and keep in mind just how much smaller it still is than reddit. According to https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/stats the lemmyverse is just now closing in on 2M users (from 750k last month), but only 70,000 of them are "active." Reddit claims 50,000,000+ daily users and 400M monthly. That's essentially 1000x larger than lemmy - that's the difference between seeing your favorite band at a stadium concert or your local pub.

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[-] dudinax@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Huh, I thought Lemmy was dying, posts are so stale.

[-] SPOOSER@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

That was my main reason for posting this question, to see if I'm alone in this site with just a bunch of bots posting. All these responses have given me hope!

[-] flipthetube@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I feel the same way and made a post about it yesterday that got hammered with downvotes.

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[-] fujiwood@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You're not going to like what I'm about to say.

You're part of the problem. You can fix it though.

Ready?

You need to make original content for the communities you are apart of and stop expecting others to provide you the conent you want. Because if that's what everyone did, then there would be absolutely nothing here.

That's just the way it is right now. There's not enough original content creators on Lemmy yet.

What does original content mean? It doesn't mean reposts from other websites. It doesn't mean articles from other websites. The original content was already posted by the writers of the articles, on the original website. It doesn't mean comments you make. My comment here isn't original content. It's a reaction.

Original content is something you make. You baked some sourdough bread? Post. You made a chair from wood? Post. You made something out of leather? Post. You took a nice photo? Post. You made some digital art? Post. You drew a sketch of a building? Post. You did "insert hobby"? Post. You're a collector of this niche thing? Post.

The truth is, original content can be hard and time-consuming. It takes a certain mind to want to post original content. If everyone here would make just one original content post, I think that would help make Lemmy a better social media site.

Be the change.

[-] SPOOSER@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your ~~rant~~ post is ill-placed, because I'm trying to do that. I've already posted and commented multiple posts in communities I enjoy trying to garner attention and content. But i'm also a busy person who's trying to live with a family, children, and a budding carreer. I understand I need to be a part of the community and I am doing more now than I ever have on Reddit.

EDIT: I also wanted to add that this post is not about me complaining about a lack of content, it was a misunderstanding of the sorting algorithm. After posting this, I got lots of very helpful advice to help me use Lemmy's sorting better and my enjoyment of Lemmy has improved immensly to the point of where my experience on Lemmy is no longer lame.

EDIT 2: I must have misread your post because it was not condesending, but more motivating. I appreciate the sentiment and redact the condesending part, but stand by the rest of what I've said. I deleted the entire second paragraph because I was defensive and wrong in its entirety. I appreciate the sentiment while affirming I am trying to contribute more while my life is still very busy. I apologize for getting defensive.

[-] constantokra@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

This type of 'post or you're the problem' comment really gets on my nerves too. If no one replies, people won't post again, and if a sub is nothing but single posts no one's coming back.

It's great you're putting in the effort to post, and people should appreciate that. I'm autistic and I can't post. I can give incredibly detailed information in response to a post or a comment if it relates in any way to any of my special interests. And I do. And so do people like me. It's why you can find the answer to basically any question on the internet. These 'post more' people need to cool it, because the reason people like content like this is depth and engagement and it's not going to happen without people engagine with the content too.

[-] CoderKat@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I've made some posts trying to start discussions on a game I played or the likes. Posts that, to the extent of my knowledge, have literally never been made on Lemmy before (I searched -- though admittedly the search system makes Reddit's search look like Google). I actually did get a couple of replies to some and some were really great replies too. But it's barely a trickle compared to what I'd get from even a middling popularity post on Reddit. I want waaaay more discussion, especially for novel topics.

And there's so many niche posts that I can't make. I really enjoyed communities like AITA or Best of Legal Advice or the likes. What, should I make up scenarios? I'm happy to contribute to comments of posts in such communities, but they basically don't exist here.

Local communities are even worse. I've made several posts to my city's community and can't recall if I ever even got a reply to a single one. On Reddit that never happened.

[-] constantokra@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. You put more into a post, so it hurts more if you don't get anything out of it. If I were to make a post i'd agonize over the wording and set aside time in front of an actual keyboard to respond and then i'd be completely overwhelmed anyway if there was even a modest response to the post. It's a pretty self centered, basic misunderstanding of people to think that everyone can or should make their own posts.

If I reply to someone, I assume at least they read it. As a person who requires little social interaction that's enough for me, even if I wrote an extremely detailed wall of text.

[-] fujiwood@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You're right, I didnt look at your profile. That was my mistake. My comment wasn't intended to be an attack on you. It was more of a generalization of a problem of Lemmy at the moment. I should have gone out of my way to look at your profile and to better phrase what I was saying so that you and others wouldn't feel as though I was making a personal attack. Sorry about making you feel attacked.

[-] tabularasa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I commend your amazing apology. This is what makes this community better than Reddit.

[-] SPOOSER@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

I think what your post was getting at was valid, and I promide I will do my best to not be the reason Lemmy has a lack of content, i want to do my best to contribute! I don't think your intentions were wrong, and hope you continue to advocate for people to contribute.

[-] GustavoM@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Hey man. Just uhhhh.... you know.... paint some walls with colored rainbows and ponies and shiz. That'll make the world better."

- (You)

I mean, I know that complaining won't change anything, but holy bimbles in my dimples, you are really suggesting this guy to just ignore all the porn and start adding some "healthy content" in? There is this thing called tendency... and if a certain community/place/etc has some "furry porn" in? Then its not him that'll (magically) change it "for the better". It'll not make the "furry porn apologists" (suddenly) stop being degenerates. Its one guy versus a bunch of porn-addicted, degenerative individuals. He doesn't stand a chance. Your post is just plain "wishful thinking".

[-] Imgonnatrythis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Is there a look at my turd sub, because that's about the level that 99% of users will contribute to IF prodded. Beyond that, the "it's you, your the problem it's you" argument will not produce change. It's simply a numbers game. Need to get enough users that 1% producing content is still a lot of content. Awareness / marketing tactics can help. Mention Lemmy on reddit boards and threads or whatever the kids are using, (instabook?). Oh, also someone needs to get some money and get some famous people on here. I could give a damn what they say, but the youth hang on their every word. Get that rapper guy or one of the telltubbies or something talking about Lemmy and you'll get people to flock.

[-] fujiwood@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That isn't true. It is not a numbers game. Reddit didn't start off with numbers. Facebook didn't start off with numbers. Tumblr didn't start off with numbers. Twitter didn't start off with numbers.

They all started small. Growing gradually. People stayed because they enjoyed the content and the community.

Hype and influence only attract a certain type of person. Fools. That will just create an inferior community. You'll have a digital Fyre Festival that way.

Artificially inflating numbers creates a community with no respect of the community itself. There's no thought in that. When you put no thought into something the results aren't good.

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[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

I've never really used it (I'm not very into micro blogging), as someone else said Lemmy is to Reddit as mastodon is to what Twitter used to be

It's a more complex system of federation than Lemmy, my understanding is that Lemmy is more tightly federated, but mastodon has additional mechanisms to spread posts through the network.

I might get more into microblogging when I add kbin support I might get into it - I've found learning enough about something to write code for it often ends with an appreciation for the thing. If that happens I'll do a similar server experience post somewhere

[-] RunAwayFrog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Sort by "best" is coming to Lemmy, in case you didn't know.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

That's great

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 2 points 1 year ago

Here is what I do. First, sort by Top Day to see what I missed. Then sort by Top 12 hours to reveal newer stuff. Then sort by Top 6 hours, Top 1 hour, any finally Sort by New until I run out of content. At that point, it's time to put down the phone and do something else.

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[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I'm shocked you have had any discussions at all, quite frankly. Step outside of the some of these more visited subs and you see threads that are many days or weeks old with 0 replies. And lots of them at that. It doesn't make you want ot contribute because you know you won't get any replies either, so that kind of perpetuates the problem. You need a certain critical mass of visitors to a sub to get it going and sustain itself.

Also, I too have noticed that the same threads appear over and over again, days later. I can't imagine there is such little traffic that more posts aren't getting posted, but who knows.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What are your interests, if I may ask?

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 1 points 1 year ago

Once clients add "mark read on scroll" this may go away, too.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ugh... Thanks for the catch, that's one less bug making it to the beta.

The frustrating thing is I specifically remember looking this up when I was writing the function, because it was weird to me that images were the opposite order

My renderer handled both though, so I might not have noticed for a while

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

I keep getting months old posts in my hot feed. It's weird.

But yeah, Lemmys missing on some "power posters" like Reddit had.

[-] DaveNa@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

My takes: 1. Lemmy is small yet, so, few content. 2. A lot of propaganda accounts. You need to block communities and users. 3. Once in a while a small community make it to the top, so you found about it and subscribe to it. 4. Little by little your feed gets better. 5. Human nature, you can't escape from it, you know, that quote about how stupid is the average person and so. 6 Accept the limitations and enjoy the platform. PS: I do like all the silly memes.

[-] Anitabath097@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I feel the same way because i have no friends :'(

[-] iRyu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I feel your pain! Sorting by Top 6 Hours is my current go to, mostly because I only scroll every few hours or so. Additionally, I start by scrolling through "Home" then transition to "All" if I feel like it. If you use the voyager app, there's a new function to hide read posts, which could be helpful to you, as well!

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