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submitted 1 year ago by noob@lemm.ee to c/android@lemdro.id

The only app I can't live without. Except for gboard, all of my applications are Foss. There is no competition for gboard's swipe typing, not to mention its many capabilities like as searching for gifs, stickers, being able to paste copied images, translating, and so on. I'd like to know how I can use gboard while maintaining my privacy. According to what I've heard, it sends all typing data to Google's server. If you ask me, that's a massive no-no. Do you have any suggestions?

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[-] ijeff@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

Leaving this up because there are some good discussions here already and it's a great question. I'd just flag rule 2 in the sidebar and that we ask questions and recommendation requests to be posted in !askandroid@lemdro.id instead. Thanks!

[-] Sl00k@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Off topic question, don't you guys think splintering the Android community into multiple communities specifically for certain things when there are so few people on the Lemmy platform will lead to the instance becoming driy without content? Not sure if there's been discussion about this yet.

[-] ijeff@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lemmy unfortunately doesn't currently have functionality that could help people curate the type of content they want to see from within a single community (e.g., hiding posts, filtering by tags). Maintaining separate communities is more work for the moderators but gives people the choice to decide what kind of content to subscribe to when populating their "Subscribed" view.

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[-] Tramdan@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

There's a fork of OpenBoard with swipe typing at https://github.com/erkserkserks/openboard

I've found this to be better than any of the alternatives.

[-] samsy@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

I use the same, it's just openboard + the propetary swipe lib

[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Give OpenBoard with gesture typing a shot. No gifs and stuff, but gesture typing works together with suggestions, unlike either base OB or Floris. Someone casually mentioned it a few weeks ago and damn how much my life changed.

[-] nulldev@lemmy.vepta.org 3 points 1 year ago

BTW that still uses Google's proprietary gesture typing library internally: https://github.com/wordmage/openboard/commit/46fdf2b550035ca69299ce312fa158e7ade36967

There's still no good FOSS alternative to Google's library though so it is what it is.

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[-] Sl00k@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I can live with no gifs, but I can't live without emoji support :/

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[-] Nr97JcmjjiXZud@infosec.pub 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

F-Droid has a lot of security issues(if you care about security), use Neo Store if you want access to F-Droid apps with a more secure app.

EDIT: Even better to use Obtainium and add the links of the APP's own Github/GitLab repo to it.

[-] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Any chance u can explain how Neo Store is more secure?

[-] notenoughbutter@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

iirc fdroid utilizes very old api which is problematic as newer api gets newer security features droidify and neostore both are more modern

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[-] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I read through that article, and though I don't have the time or knowledge to properly critique it, I found quite a lot of it unconvincing.

It's one thing to agree there are potential issues, but the article seemed to jump a bit too easily, via rhetoric more than logic, to "therefore it's unsuitable" and similarly to "the other ones are better".

(Disclaimer: I only know mildly what I'm talking about!! If whoever reads this is interested, I hope you can follow the details to their source and get involved in the proper discussion for improving f-droid and/or encouraging another respiratory client.)

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[-] bugsmith@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago

To those who have been recommending Florisboard in this thread: Thank you. I've longed for a good FOSS keyboard, but always found they lacked enough features that I was willing to compromise and stick with gboard. Florisboard, using the latest beta from IzzyOnDroid, absolutely hits the mark already. It's missing a few features, like word autosuggest, but I can live without that for a while.

[-] schmensch@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

A lot oft ROMs allow you go completely disable Internet access for a certain app. Disabling the data collection toggles in GBoard and disabling internet access for GBoard, Play Services, Play Store and the Google App should prevent most logging.

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[-] armrods@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

GBoard learning algorithm has been federated since 2017 🤷‍♂️ edit

https://ai.googleblog.com/2017/04/federated-learning-collaborative.html

[-] Rootiest@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

That's actually pretty cool

It works like this: your device downloads the current model, improves it by learning from data on your phone, and then summarizes the changes as a small focused update. Only this update to the model is sent to the cloud, using encrypted communication, where it is immediately averaged with other user updates to improve the shared model. All the training data remains on your device, and no individual updates are stored in the cloud.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

If you're on calyxos, grapheneos, or lineageos you can disable network permisions for that app. If not, use netguard as a firewall and block it.

https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.faircode.netguard/

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago

If you have Google play services the keyboard could phone home through play services. Shutting off network access isn't 100% effective, especially for Google apps.

Obviously depending on your threat model this is fine.

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[-] wolre@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

My main deal breaker with most open source keyboards is the usually pretty bad multi language support. I type in three languages all the time and don't want to have to switch keyboards every time I switch the language. Currently using SwiftKey, just because it handles multi-language (fairly) well.

[-] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 3 points 1 year ago

Same. Gboard is the only software keyboard capable of multi-language input that "just works". I tried OpenBoard, AOSP, Floris, Anysoft and while they seem okay in general, none supports polyglots as well as Gboard

[-] lia_automata@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There is a fork of openboard with multiple language support, but it's missing glide typing. When these two features are merged it's the perfect keyboard. Until then the language switch icon works well enough.

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[-] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

I always see people recommend FlorisBoard, but I haven't been able to leave OpenBoard for it on the basis of never getting autocorrect to work on FlorisBoard. Is that implemented and I'm not setting it up right, or do you all manage to text with 100% accuracy?

[-] communist@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Nyanix@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Holy monkeys!!! I'm absolutely giving this a shot right after work today, thank you so much!

[-] communist@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

https://github.com/florisboard/florisboard/pull/2209

As soon as this gets merged, I'm done with Gboard I hope.

[-] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

What do you mean, no competition? SwiftKey was the first to have swipe typing, and still does it best, because it learns how you swipe and adjusts itself for that.

[-] ijeff@lemdro.id 15 points 1 year ago

Swype was the first to have it. It did so amazingly well and was better than SwiftKey while it was still around.

[-] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Oh shit you're right! I forgot all about Swype. I used that too, back in the day.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I loved Swype. Nuance made it a pile of shit though. One annoying thing after they bought it was that 'K.' would always autocorrect to K. d. Lang. You could not tell it to stop doing that.

I use SwiftKey now. Microsoft is getting more of my data.

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[-] Sucuk@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

OpenBoard, Florisboard, AnySoftKeyboard

THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES, PEOPLE!

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[-] razieltakato@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 1 year ago

I dropped gboard and started using FlorisBoard. It's a lot more crude and don't have the same features, but I'm very happy with it and will not go back.

I preffer my privacy over features, and using the software and reporting feedback helps it betting better.

We really need to ditch Google.

[-] mister_monster@monero.town 4 points 1 year ago
[-] gnzl@nc.gnzl.cl 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know how much of a difference it makes in terms of Gboard phoning home, but you can disable a bunch of data sharing options in the Privacy section of Gboard's settings:

[-] Carter@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Fox@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

I've been using it for a couple weeks, and it's a lot slower than gboard. No swiping support, suggestions aren't as refined, and basically impossible to use one handed.

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[-] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve tried a bunch and tbh haven’t found anything sufficiently good for my standards

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