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But I love death (lemmy.world)
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[-] unions@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

This meme changed zero minds but made a few vegans feel pretty special.

[-] r1veRRR@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

This meme really only makes sense in response to something. I've definitely heard many non-vegans complain that a vegan diet is restricting. Most of those people do only eat like 3 veggies ever.

That being said, it's a meme, not a philosophical treatise.

[-] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe not this single one, but if there's a running discourse that shows veganism is perfectly common and normal, more people are willing to become vegan. This is part of the nudges we humans are prone to.

[-] Johanno@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Well I mean I can imagine on living without meat. But I can't life without cheese. I mean what meaning does life have if you can't eat cheese?

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[-] elucubra@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I eat meat AND vegetables

[-] EatsTheCheeseRind@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

What three animals everyone else eating? We’ve got chickens, ducks, pigeons, quail, geese, cranes, turkeys, cows, deer, elk, moose, antelope, armadillo, beaver, bobcats, coyotes, foxes, lynx, bear, bison, caribou, goat, musk ox, pronghorn, sheep, muskrat, opossums, pigs, porcupine, rabbits, squirrels, pheasant, chukars, and tons of tasty insects to choose from.

[-] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Tell me with a straight face that you eat a fucking squirrel

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

THAT'S the one you take issue with? Lol

In not sure anyone is eating muskrat or opossum outside West Virginia mountain hermits, people born before 1890, and anyone who self identifies as a trapper.

[-] EatsTheCheeseRind@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Squirrel are fantastic.

They’re the least “gamey” out of most small game, less so than rabbit, and taste something like leaner dark meat chicken.

Awesome in a crockpot substituted for chicken in most recipes. Can fancy up squirrel with a Sous vide to make squirrel confit bánh mì tacos, or keep it old school and make squirrel pot pie.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

80k plants and vegans only eat like 20 anyway

[-] swancheez@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Sorry, was I supposed to eat them while they are alive?

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[-] pwnstar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

"You ever plow a field? To plant the quinoa or sorghum or whatever the hell it is you eat. You kill everything on the ground and under it.

You kill every snake, every frog, every mouse, mole, vole, worm, quail… you kill them all.

So, I guess the only real question is: how cute does an animal have to be before you care if it dies to feed you?”

-John Dutton

[-] Urik@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

Cows and chickens gotta eat too, and that food is coming from fields as well.
By reducing meat consumption also way less critters will end up dying.

[-] pwnstar@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not here to reduce my meat consumption. It's at the perfect level.

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[-] abraxas@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you from a farm town?

A supermajority of animal feed comes from the waste product of crops we that were being grown anyway, or grass from a fallow field that needs to be harvested anyway (not enough the latter due to logistics, but my local farms all do). That whole "8 to 1" calorie to cow thing leaves out the part that it's 8 calories of landfill material to make 1 calorie of beef. Nobody has an "animal only" corn field. And nobody is using harsh animal-killing chemicals on the fallow fields.

And cows are still being fed things whether you eat them or not. We need their manure and it's overall better for the environment than synthetic fertilizer. Without some form of fertilizer, we need much more farmland, which means more animals killed per calorie. All compared to 700,000 calories in a cow.

Unfortunately, nobody has ever demonstrated in a defensible manner that a horticulture-only scenario would be anywhere near as efficient on animal lives as what we have now. It's one thing to cut animal intake 10%, entirely another to try to rebuild our farming industry without animals.

[-] Urik@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A supermajority of animal feed comes from the waste product of crops we that were being grown anyway

According to the Alberta Cattle Feeders Association, 80% of the feed is composed of corn. According to the USDA itself half the corn grown in the US was used for animal feed, and 78% of the world's soy production is made for animal feed.
Is the waste product of corn and soy included in these numbers?

[-] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Man, here's the thing. I can't digest fermenting ogliosaccharides, disaccharides, monosaccharides and polyols.

So no beans, mushrooms, onions garlic wheat rye or barley, apples, apricots, most berries, etc etc etc.

I also lead a "fairly" active lifestyle against my own wishes. So where does my protein come from? Meat. Chicken, eggs, and hard tofu.

If I cut meat from my diet, I'm eating three meals a day of hard tofu. What even is the point of life, then?

[-] Sonline@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I've been vegetarian for around 3 years after I discovered how badly we treat animals, and also by connecting meat and animals in my mind... Realising that the same pets that I adore are the steaks that I ate. But still, I went vegetarian because I could. I could manage to find time in my life to change my diet and to make sure I had no deficiency in nutrients... So don't be too hard on yourself mate, your situation is totally understandable! Actually I strongly disagree with people saying that anyone could become vegetarian if they wanted to, it takes a lot of thought, trial and error, time and obviously a lack of allergies... Saying that, anyone can fight for animal rights in their own way, being vegetarian is only one of the many tools we have...

[-] ThePac@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe it goes to show you just how yummy those 3 animals are?

[-] SternburgExport@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Who's gonna fall for this ragebait?

[-] lavadrop@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

You can eat both vegetables and dead animals at the same time. We call that a stew.

[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

So you love plants? Name all plats then!

[-] RealWrastling@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

All these tasty meats and people decide to eat what the food eats.

[-] Querk@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Buckwheat (must buy eastern european kind) with diced avocado thrown in and a few pinches of salt is the shiznitz.

If I had to choose only one meal to eat for the rest of my life - this would be it.

edit: buckwheat prep: boil for 10-20 mins until most of the water boils away. Add some water if it boils away too soon. Leave some water/moisture to boil away while it's cooling and not to get buckwheat burned and stuck on the pot surface. Throw in some diced avocado chunks. Add salt to bring out the buckwheat flavor. Done.

[-] rms1990@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Beef/lamb/pork/chicken/seafood eater 4 life.

[-] SpooneyOdin@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I mean I think it's pretty telling that there are lots of plant based versions of meat based food, but not the other way around. Nobody is trying to replicate the taste of salads in meat form

[-] yeather@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

There's more than three affordable animals lmao. Even if you count fish as one you still have crawfish, shrimp, fish, beef, chicken, pork, lamb, venison, turkey, etc. This also doesn't even account for the million ways to prepare the meats

[-] StaySquared@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

But... I haz both.

[-] zloubida@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm French so I'd eat Kermit too.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Is it vegan to sit on that high horse?

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Vegans will literally eat slave labor picked Avocados but still think the best way they can help reduce comodification is by yelling at other people online, instead of not eating the slave avocados.

[-] Lininop@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure you can even have one without the other tbh

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[-] BassaForte@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Cool, vegans are invading this community. You're all insufferable.

[-] dottedgreenline@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

A lot of people in the comments can't seem to make the distinction between what they have been fed since they were little and that they are used to, and what is good, or tastes good.

[-] abraxas@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Most people who eat meat also eat some subset of vegetables and know they like/hate some other subset of vegetables.

The human body loves getting addicted to the unhealthy sugar carbs found in some plants, but our taste buds do tend to have a healthier long-term relationship with the umami balance you get more easily from meats and seafoods.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Do you know what those self-mummifying japanese monks ate to mummify themselves? Plants. Not even very many plants.

I don't want to be a mummy.

[-] roux@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

This is definitely a sane and logical take. I've been eating plants for almost a year and no meat. Not only am I still waiting for my soy manboobs to come in but in surprisingly not a mummy lol.

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