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submitted 1 year ago by favrion@lemmy.world to c/usa@lemmy.ml

I think that it will not be waged between North and South for state rights, but rather between Republicans and Democrats for human rights. It will happen before our 250th anniversary in 2026.

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[-] theragu40@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Things are very heated right now certainly. But there are still a lot of people (a LOT) of people who just want to live their lives and are not going to literally wage war on people in their own country.

It's not a zero percent chance but it's near zero.

[-] iByteABit@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I certainly hope so, but one side (which I won't name because I think it's obvious enough) doesn't seem content with just living their lives, they want to force themselves on the lives of others as well so that the whole country will be just as shitty as they are and then they won't have to feel so bad about it.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago

Most americans think the "sides" are red vs blue, which is absolutely 100% wrong in all ways. So as long as that belief holds true a civil war is impossible.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

What is it with you lot with your obsession and fixation on rights? Why do you want the government to dictate your thoughts and actions so much?

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 1 year ago

Why do you want the government to dictate your thoughts and actions so much?

I want the government to protect me from the dumb fucks that actually do want the government to dictate how I should live my life. It's the pieces of human garbage that want to tell men they can't marry another man, that tell women they don't have autonomy over their own body, that want to stop the teaching of the theory of evolution and include prayer in school, that want to dictate others' lives.

Those calling for more rights aren't asking for the government to dictate anyone's lives. They're literally doing the opposite of that.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Enforcing policy is dictating lives though, how about just use a different name for marriage and do a different ritual? Unless that's only if you actually only care for inheritance laws.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not an infringement of your rights to stop you from beating/killing people you don't like. It's not an infringement of your rights to allow others to do things you don't want to do yourself. Nobody owns the "ritual" of marriage, and it's not an infringement of anyone's rights for another belief system of any kind (theist or not) to duplicate it.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

How about people just treat each better than forcing it on people by the state.

[-] iByteABit@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

They don't though, otherwise there would be no need for a justice system altogether. There are "people" out there that have wet dreams of lgbt people being incriminated and women having less rights than men, the rest of society should be protected from them instead of putting them in government positions.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

We tried that, several times, each time the south did something stupid like dredd Scott or Jim crow or the kkk.

The only way to stop them from trying to keep brown people as pets was to send soldiers, they don't understand any other language.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

It's sad you think like that

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's what laws seek to do because people clearly don't do it on their own, dumbass. Be good to others, or face punishment. It's not fucking rocket science here.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

No it's not but you should be genuinely good and not down the barrel of a gun with coercion or threats.

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I'm going to guess you're Christian. I'm also going to guess you don't see one bit of irony with your statement.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

No I'm an atheist, if you need religion or a belief system to be a good person then you must be a terrible person.

[-] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

2010 called. They want their dumb, regressive talking points back

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

I'd prefer a rational discussion rather than emotional irrationality

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It doesn't sound like you're being rational. It sounds more like you're being facetious when you say things like "enforcing policy is dictating lives." By this we can imply that you believe murder is a right. Theft is a right. Rape is a right. That because there is a punishment for these acts, your life is being dictated by others.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

No I don't, you shouldn't jump to assumptions

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 1 year ago

Well then how do you propose to stop these things from being reality if you are not for the enforcement of policy?

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't antagoniste, cause harm or do violence to others.

[-] ikiru@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

You may not be as rational or smart as you think you are.

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Never claimed to be

[-] Foresight@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

No, it'll be based on economic class and other factors, you can see how less developed the US is on the western part from space.

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