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[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 year ago

Why did we talk so much about James Webb and I'm only discovering about this telescope now ?

A telescope designed for dark energy !

[-] paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 year ago

At least part of it is that NASA is good at marketing. They make cool shit and hype up the public so we all know how cool it is too. Soon they'll be launching a NASA+ streaming service that's completely free. All their video and live content in one place. They're genuinely one of the coolest public entities I know about, and part of why I know about them is because they're so good at marketing their projects to the lay public.

[-] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"+" in it's name but it's free, what kind of sorcery is this

[-] tal@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

It was, in fact, the regular, no "+" NASA that required the tax dollars.

[-] tal@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Why did we talk so much about James Webb

At least on /r/europe on Reddit, I think because it was being launched by a European rocket from a European spaceport, so there was a lot of discussion about Arianne. The scope was extremely expensive, so rebuilding it probably wouldn't be an option, and Arianne 5 was a particularly reliable launch platform.

Amusingly, this new Euclid scope is the mirror opposite of JWST: a principally-European scope launched by an American rocket from an American spaceport.

[-] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

What a weird title. Was it not supposed to work? Was anything wrong with it?

[-] tal@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

I suspect that this was in the context of the James Webb Space Telescope launching and (a) having a complicated "unfolding" process and (b) being so far out that it couldn't be the target of a Hubble Telescope-style repair mission, so people are thinking about telescopes activating and maybe not working.

[-] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you. It makes more sense now

[-] bacondragonoverlord@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago
[-] tal@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, it sort of worked even prior to the mirror fix.

https://www.skyatnightmagazine.com/space-missions/what-was-wrong-with-hubble-mirror-how-was-it-fixed/

Still, even this compromised Hubble was far more capable than any ground-based observatory.

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In space things don't always go as expected, and it's hard to send tech support. So it's always a relief when your 1.5b project works as expected.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That’s a hell of a lot of money for a single telescope.

[-] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 45 points 1 year ago

It's a lot less when you consider that it took 10 years to develop, build and launch that thing. That's 10 years of wages for technicians, scientists, programmers and all the associated jobs - secretaries, cleaning staff etc.

And that's the beauty of funding science: the money goes straight back into the economic cycle and also funds the training and education of the young scientists who are learning the ropes. This thing has funded probably dozens of PhD's and hundreds of master students.

[-] jerome@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Oh f yeaaaah.

[-] setInner234@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Let me tell you about the marvel at L2 called JWST

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Searching for dork energy in mere 6 years is worth it :D

[-] quatschkopf34@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

I could show them some dorks a lot sooner for a lot less money.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Such massive amounts of dorkery capable of bending any bright thought!!

[-] tal@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s a hell of a lot of money for a single telescope.

I mean, right here you can see telescopes being sold for $49.99 on Amazon. It makes one question the entire budgetary process behind this Euclid scope.

EDIT: Not to mention that the Amazon one comes with a tripod, and as best I can tell from this article and Wikipedia, the Euclid scope doesn't have anything of the sort. If we could get Josef Aschbacher here right now, I think that the no-tripod issue would definitely be an incisive question to raise with him.

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