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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

The number of older Americans living alone is on the rise. Nearly 16 million people aged 65 and older in the US lived solo in 2022, three times as many who lived alone in that age group in the 1960s. And as Baby Boomers age, that number is expected to grow even more, raising big questions about the country’s future.

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[-] jackpot@lemmy.ml 178 points 1 year ago

"Edith Heyck, 72, was thrilled to land an apartment in senior housing, where her rent is adjusted to match her income." I fucking lost my shit, boomers get fucking everything. Rent that is matched to income? Are you fucking serious they protect their own I swear to god

[-] kite@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

I have never seen a senior housing facility that wasn't a bleak, horrific nightmare. They may look nice on the outside, but they are usually the last place you want to live in your old age. Out of all of the things boomers get, this one isn't a great one.

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[-] Ilikepornaddict@lemmynsfw.com 34 points 1 year ago
[-] 2ez@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

They vote Republican, aren't we talking about socialism?

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Socialism is what other people get.

That sounds glib, but I mean it. People forget the help they get is socialism.

My mom and sister live together. Mom gets social security, sister is a teacher. They are supported by government money.

They are deep red voters. I pointed out the home is a socialism home and it confused my mom until I explained. Still not sure she agrees. I was not being rude in pointing it out.

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[-] cjthomp@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
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[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every single time the word Boomer is in the title, people rush to comments to make these insults.

The article isn't describing a necessarily bad thing. It's just noting a trend.

There are many reasons behind this shift in our society, including the economic gains women made when they entered the workforce and changing attitudes toward marriage.

Like...this article has absolutely nothing to do with boomers getting their comeuppance. It's just about a shift in societal behavior. People are getting divorced later in life because it's more acceptable to do so now and women can support themselves better on their own than when these people got married.

[-] AThing4String@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago

To be fair, Baby Boomers are actually statistically the reason divorce rates are so high, and also why they've been going down recently.

Not trying to be insulting, just wanting to speak about the statistics I've read, so I'll try to use the full generation title to distinguish.

Speaking about the generation as a general group, Baby Boomers had many marriages and many divorces per capita. Your stereotypical "on my fifth wife" dudes were Baby Boomers and were a disproportionate percentage of marriages that ended in divorce - basically "Divorce Georg".

From a statistics perspective, a large part of the reason divorce rates are going down these days are because as people get older, they tend to settle down and have less energy for those kind of antics basically, and the rate of Baby Boomers marriages and divorces was slowing down in response - with other generations being pretty much stable.

So on that level I'm not particularly surprised that those attitudes towards divorce are still affecting them in old age. It does pose interesting questions for our elder care infrastructure (or lack thereof) though.

This reminded me.

As a kid, I was so used to meeting adults who were on their 2nd or 3rd marriage. It felt super common.

But now im hitting 40 and only a small fraction of my friends are divorced.

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Fewer people getting married. A lot of my friends are long-term common-law partners, but never do the actual marriage.

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[-] demvoter@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Well, the subheadline did say this “raising big questions about the country’s future” which is just bullshit.

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Boomers sure love their "I hate my wife" jokes but now that they finding out that treating people like shit is biting them in the ass.

[-] 2ez@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

"My kids don't talk to me"

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[-] TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago

Lemme whip out my tiniest violin to express my sympathies for the generation that completely fucked over our entire species with their selfish choices.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sympathy for what? This is about women being able to divorce their husbands now and support themselves, so it's happening later in life for a generation that got married early and didn't really have this option to separate cleanly.

If anything this is a good thing. It means women aren't* trapped in marriages with shitty men forever. I don't care what you think about any specific generation, that's a good trend for everyone.

Edit: typo

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah I’m hugely pro divorce for that reason. I’m glad they were able to leave

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[-] Hank@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago

Man I'm on my magical journey to become the most cynical person who ever lived myself but c'mon. There are better reasons to hate someone than their age like for example their weight, fashion choice, how they sound or how much they're into mechanical keyboards.

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

It's fun to trash the whole post-war generation, but we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that they were just as victimized by class warfare as we are. They benefited from the economic boom and were then lulled by their own masters into believing it was sustainable and things would be just as good for their own kids and grandkids. They were lied to too.

Never forget that the real enemy isn't any one group except for the oligarchs and leeches at the top of the economic ladder. We shouldn't focus our ire on those people in between us and the top. They're not the ones controlling the taps on the river of shit flowing down.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Those goddamned keyboards. All I hear in this house is the constant clacking and tapping drowning out every goddamned thought I ever hoped to have. I can't get through a single episode of Bonanza without the incessant claxon of feckless tip-tappery. Fuck those goddamned things!

Maybe I should get a different keyboard.

[-] Kikkertje@aussie.zone 7 points 1 year ago

I'm getting so tired of the boomer bashing. It's lazy and just helps to divide us even more. Isn't that what the people with power want?

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[-] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

You ever notice how easy it is to take a brush and cover an entire population segment with a certain view? Ever consider how racism and stereotypes become prevalent?

I'm not a part of that generation, but if you think it was any different than today, you're wrong. Power was weilded by rich corporations and government officials who were doing their bidding. It just wasn't as blatant.

Besides writing a snarky post, what will you tell the future generation you did to stop the current situation? Exactly...

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[-] anolemmi@lemmi.social 18 points 1 year ago

You can’t paint such huge populations with a single paint brush, and even saying “generally” doesn’t cover your complete lack of empathy. Many or even most of those 16 million made choices that they thought were right at the time and tried to live good lives. You think these are the people that emptied pensions and raised prices and drilled the oil despite scientific warnings?

Sure, statically some of them did. But most of them did not. Most of them worked hard, harder than our generation, and provided for their families.

Having that much hostility for an entire population is no way to live your life.

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's also a distraction from the real real villains who hollowed out the middle class and funneled every drop of wealth into their own pockets. They're laughing from their superyachts whenever the middle classes bicker.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

I can understand why they're getting divorced. Would you want to live with a Boomer?

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Just to add some fuel to the fire, did you know most universities offer extremely low-cost, and often free, tuition to senior citizens?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't mind going back to school, but I'm only in my 40s. Think I could pull off a Maeby Funke and put on a grey wig and glasses before going to the admissions office?

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Think I could pull off a Maeby Funke and put on a grey wig and glasses before going to the admissions office?

Absolutely I think you could pull it off. They might take issue with your birth date tho.

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[-] Izzent@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Imagine that, assholes used to treating others like shit get what's coming for them when they do it to their spouses

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Get what's coming to them?

Get...what?

The article isn't describing a bad thing happening to a generation. It's describing a shift in culture

[-] pfannkuchen_gesicht@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

Ah, feels like good ol' reddit in here, doesn't it? Nobody reading the article and just posting their stupid take based on the headline alone.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

No, everybody loves them!

It's awesome how their "Strong Christian Heterosexual Marriages" they were do paranoid to defend fell apart as soon as their wives had to put up with them in person. Having had to deal with them in the workforce my whole life, I actually feel bad for their wives.

Boomers delusion is incredible, Florida is just going to turn into a living hell.

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[-] MicroWave@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Some older people initiating divorces feel they’ve simply drifted too far apart from their spouses, while some have suffered abuse or discovered shocking transgressions, Myres says. All of them – including some clients in their 80s – feel like any years of life they have left are too precious to spend with the wrong person.

[-] krische@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

My completely baseless take: they were fine making the "I hate by husband/wife" jokes while working full time; but once retired and spending time together, they realize they actually really do not like each other.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, it's that in the 2020s divorce is far more acceptable and because women are more capable of supporting themselves now, so they're not trapped in their marriages.

What you're describing has always been happening. For every generation. It's just that nowadays retired boomer women aren't shackled to their husband for the rest of their life.

Yet another case of the old and conservative reaping the benefits of the progress others have been making.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah but also they did that one. They legalized no fault divorce and normalized it. We were just the ones to whom it was normal

It's not surprising. I mean, there's a reason jokes about hating your spouse are called boomer jokes.

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[-] catshit_dogfart@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

You know, sometimes I think if my mother hadn't passed away, things with my parents would've gone this route.

I had moved out, dad was spending more time at home, and she couldn't stand him anymore because he's an obnoxious racist.

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[-] RichardBonham@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Interesting that there was a significant increase during and following the pandemic due to irreconcilable differences over masking and vaccines. Probably wasn't helped to be locked down together at that point, either.

[-] scorpious@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Living longer (and in better shape) means choosing quality of life over tradition and expectations of others.

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[-] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

This is the another consequence of the 1950's version of the American dream. Single income family brought home by the husband where the wife stayed home to raise children. Husband needed someone to tend to the house and the wife needed someone to support her. Marriage was imperative for both sexes to participate within society even if you hated your spouse. Kids grow up and move out and then BOOM(er) divorce.

Now that a single income household for a family is almost unheard of people don't get married just for the money so later divorce is much less likely

[-] o_oli@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Interesting that boomers are living alone and younger generations are being forced to stay together or at least cohabitate because they can't afford not to. The financial situation is effecting the social one.

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[-] pelicans_plight@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well old age is a bitch, I've seen this scenario happen twice in my life, so I'm guessing this situation may happen a lot... but who knows. Anyway I had a friend... well not really a friend anymore, but he was a cheater, he was ugly as fuck, but this motherfucker (term used completely correctly) tried to sleep with every woman he could, including everyones girlfriends, the shocking part is that it worked, that ugly piece of shit sleep with more women then anyone I've ever known. Our friendship ended when one day we were just chillin smoking a joint and he casually says to me, you know what my fantasy is??? aaaah... sure, tell me, one day I hope to get aids so I can give to all the woman I sleep with...... ........ ........ aahhhh.... shit.... I don't think I'm friends with you anymore. But to get back to the topic, later in life he went after his best friends girlfriend, she was vary naive and trusting, and he got her, they got married, started a successful business together, had kids, he became loyal, he really loved her. One day decades into his fantasy he had an emergency, he had to go to the hospital, they ran every test they could think of to find the cause, some of the causes could be from STDs, and it was. When the wife found out it was over, fantasy now turned nightmare. He deserved what he got, but I'll always be sad when I think of all that time that cheating narcissistic piece of shit took away from her.

Sorry if this is slightly off topic, but this reminded me of her and what she went through.

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[-] Metaright@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Heyck says she got divorced in her 50s after her son turned 18.

“It was really more of a working relationship than a full marriage,” she says, and Heyck was emotionally ready to be on her own.

But the financial transition, she says, wasn’t easy. For years, she struggled to make ends meet, living with roommates and couch-surfing as she waited for a spot to open in income-adjusted senior housing.

“I was an artist. I lived on the edge financially. I didn’t have a 401(k) … I always thought that I would be married. That was the big surprise,” she says.

How was it a "big surprise" when it's implied that she wanted the divorce to happen? You have an unstable job, divorce your spouse, and then go all surprised Pikachu when it occurs to you that your finances are unstable?

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something something... I hate my wife

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