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For a moment, it seemed like the streaming apps were the things that could save us from the hegemony of cable TV—a system where you had to pay for a ton of stuff you didn't want to watch so you could see the handful of things you were actually interested in.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 155 points 1 year ago

It sucks for consumers...

It sucks for writers...

It sucks for actors...

It sucks for vfx workers...

And the CEOs running the companies and making all the money claims it sucks for them too because after their last couple years of shit decisions, they're making slightly less money.

So maybe those shareholders should re-evaulte who their CEOs are?

Maybe get rid of the people who killed the Golden Goose because they wanted to eat it?

[-] Riyria@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 year ago

If they’re not losing money, shareholders do not care. The end goal of a corporation is to maximize profits for the shareholders within the confines of the law. So until they start actually costing shareholders substantial amounts of money they will do nothing.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago

The end goal of a corporation is to maximize profits for the shareholders within the confines of the law.

And if the fine is greater than the profit, or they don't get caught, that's okay too.

[-] Riyria@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Yep. It’s easier to just break the law, pay the fine, and continue making billions over actually stopping the activity that causes the fine. That’s what happens when it’s almost impossible to hold anyone actually personally responsible force actions of a corporation.

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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 73 points 1 year ago

I gave them a chance. They collectively became more & more rapacious & greedy.

Back to sailing the high seas.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

Ah, well. There's always piracy.

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[-] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 52 points 1 year ago

Arrrrr whatever be i to do? 🦜🏴‍☠️

[-] June@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago

I’ve set sail on the high seas again for the first time in like 15 years.

[-] CreativeCider@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Fun thing, the captain still knows the major trade routes

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 28 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Discovery's David Zaslav have also indicated that their services were initially priced "too low" in an effort to draw a huge and unendingly expanding subscriber base.

In the early-to-mid 2010s, a subscription to Netflix and Hulu and your friend’s borrowed HBO password could get you access to the vast majority of all the TV that was worth watching.

Netflix had a huge archive of older shows plus a slowly growing library of its buzzy releases like Orange Is the New Black, Jessica Jones, and Stranger Things.

Not content to let Netflix have what looked like a lucrative new market all to itself the companies that made and distributed TV decided one by one as the decade wore on that it was time to create their own apps and generate their own subscription revenue.

Tech companies also decided to jump in, with Amazon Prime Video pushing into expensive scripted dramas and Apple TV+ becoming relevant by dint of throwing untold gobs of money at all kinds of projects.

Netflix announced its first subscriber loss in a decade in early 2022, cratering its stock; despite some recovery, it's still only worth about two-thirds what it was at its peak in late 2021.


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[-] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Luckily VPNs are cheaper

[-] octobob@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum

[-] veloxy@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Streaming was great when Netflix launched, convenient and affordable - I remember being excited when Netflix finally launched in my country. Was only a matter of time before all would turn to shit with every tv network/producer launching their own streaming services and fragmenting all that content.

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[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I am happy to steal from corporations. Been doing it all my life and I will never stop. Fuck em.

[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Things you never hear people say: I couldn't sleep last night worrying about corporate profit margins because I stole some of it. It's the least culpable crime in history.

[-] DigitalWebSlinger@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I will forever wonder how these companies actively choose $0/mo over a cut of $XX/mo and everyone in the decision chain thinks it's the right decision.

[-] skizzles@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Because your 0$ per month after dropping them doesn't hurt their bottom line.

Corporations generally weigh the risks and the benefit often wins out and they make more money because there are enough people that either reluctantly cave into the fee increase, forgot about their subscription or just don't care that it's going up.

It's fairly seldom (but seems to be increasing over the years) to see so much backlash that a company walks back on what they were planning to do.

[-] Linuto@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

My favorite example of the reverse in recent memory has been Wizards of the Coast essentially going back completely and then some on their unpopular OGL changes after a significant portion of their DnD Beyond members canceled their subscriptions.

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[-] Fester@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

At this point, the best way to go (besides sailing) is to subscribe to one or two services at a time, cancelling others month-to-month based on what you want to watch.

We need an app that lets you search for content across all platforms and easily cancel and start subscriptions - queueing them up and helping you easily limit the amount you’re paying monthly.

But with these prices, it’s worth doing that manually.

[-] gsb@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Right now it's smart to cycle through but I wouldn't be surprised if that is the next thing to go.

What I could see happening is they keep raising monthly prices until the math doesn't work out of them. Then they'll introduce a small discount for locking in multiple months (3,6,12mon). Both will continue to rise in price but month to month will be quicker.

[-] Fester@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Or straight-up contracts. But I think the next step will be more slow-dripping content.

Netflix just pulled an obvious one by splitting the Witcher season 3 to the release half at the end of June and the other at the end of July. They claim it was for “an effective cliffhanger” but it’s clear they just wanted to squeeze one extra payment out of its viewers who aren’t interested in their other content. Paramount meanwhile stretches all of their Star Trek series out across the entire year.

I imagine platforms will start slow-releasing more of their most popular originals. I wouldn’t put it past them to flood social media with spoilers to punish anyone who’s waiting. I also wouldn’t be surprised if we start seeing one episode per month someday.

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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here's how that will go:

Each streaming service will release their own aggregator app. Each of these will have a fee associated with them. Each of these will have certain services they don't work with because the lawyers are still fighting over things. Each of these will eventually reduce their search coverage and promote their own content. "You searched for Star Trek, would you like Star Wars instead?"

Even if an open source third party wrote something that did this, companies would change their API pricing or authentication to break it so people don't leave their walled gardens.

Companies are incapable of making a service that doesn't eventually enshittify.

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[-] sndrtj@feddit.nl 19 points 1 year ago

For me it's back to the pirating era.

[-] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I hear sea shanties are making a comeback.

[-] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a good time to cancel a subscription and finish the ol' Steam library

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[-] googlesnarfen@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Capitalism turns everything into shit. Not promises, only profit.

[-] demonsword@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I've never threw away my jolly roger, it's just safely hidden away

[-] littlecolt@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

Yar har har matey.

[-] feckless@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 year ago

🎶Yar Har, fiddle-de-dee🎶

[-] miketunes_@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

https://www.togetherprice.com/ - great site to share subscription prices, I've been using it for years.

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[-] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 12 points 1 year ago

If companies are so adamant in both raising prices to the point of unaffordability, and making alternate routes to enjoy their art illegal, then what we should collectively do is to just go without them, maybe use that free time and money for something more useful than art.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

According to CNN article, in a recent earnings call Bob Iger indicated that ad-supported streaming is a better revenue stream for them than ad-free subscriptions. So they're apparently raising prices on ad-free subscriptions to get people to drop down to ad-supported.

[-] shirro@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some people can't stand advertising and will turn off rather than sit through it. I have been ad blocking and ad skipping for 20 years. I am not going to change my habits. The alternative is piracy. I don't want to go back to piracy. It is a superior product in many ways but it isn't sustainable and I want a fair share of my subscriptions to fund creative jobs (not that that is happening). There are a lot of shows I can't stream or buy digitally here that are only available via the black market which is crazy in 2023 when streaming was supposed to fix this. We have companies taking shows off their services to claim tax writeoffs now at a time when the market is fragmented and overpriced.

The super rich and powerful think we are livestock to lead to slaughter and often they aren't wrong. The sensible thing is for consumers is to walk away (same for X, Facebook, Reddit and all the other time wasters) and let the whole thing burn down and hope that whatever replaces it learns from the mistakes and greed. Unfortunately I don't think enough will to make a difference.

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[-] tok3n@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The only reason I have Netflix is because I get it through T-Mobile as a last resort. Fuck the state of streaming content. Raise the pirate flag boys!

[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago

So piracy is a check on the abuses of the media market?

Interesting!

[-] ThirdNerd@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Currently paying for YouTube ad-free, Netflix ad-free, and Hulu ad-free.

YouTube's algorithm seems intent on making me look elsewhere for content, as it suggests the same twenty things over and over again, despite the fact that I've watched half of them already and ignored the other half for months now. We only keep it because spouse wants it for YouTube music. Me? I've wandered off to piped and peertube, mostly.

The Netflix app locks up and crashes the Roku at least once every movie. It used to do this just now and again, but recently it's so bad I don't even load it anymore and spouse is THIS CLOSE to being talked into just cancelling it.

Hulu..? Well, it's ok. I wish it still had a lot of the older stuff, as a lot of the newer stuff is just stupid and/or revolting. Because of the above, we'd probably keep this one and dump the others, based on price and what (mostly spouse) finds useful to watch.

I'm actually checking out other things. Like Hoopla through the local library, eBooks, real books (the local library is free). Spouse and I have also learned to play several different card games, and sometimes we actually interact with each other instead of alpha-wave mind-bending into the electronic hallucination machine on the other side of the living room. We're also exploring more outdoor activities, like hiking, birding, nature walks, team sports, and so on.

Sometimes, a "bad" thing is just the right thing that needs to happen.

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[-] CapnAssHolo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

I'll plunder yer coffer, ye mutinous, squiffy gob! ... Hoist the Jolly Roger!

[-] lackthought@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

just ordered a nice OTA antenna so I can watch my local channels, anything else needed will be purchased for exactly 1 month and then cancelled

I've also started looking at smaller streaming services like CuriosityStream and MagellanTV cause I'm more interested in documentaries and such instead of the latest weekly tv dramas

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