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More than 100 days into the writers strike, fears have kept mounting over the possibility of studios deploying generative artificial intelligence to completely pen scripts. But intellectual property law has long said that copyrights are only granted to works created by humans, and that doesn’t look like it’s changing anytime soon.

A federal judge on Friday upheld a finding from the U.S. Copyright Office that a piece of art created by AI is not open to protection. The ruling was delivered in an order turning down Stephen Thaler’s bid challenging the government’s position refusing to register works made by AI. Copyright law has “never stretched so far” to “protect works generated by new forms of technology operating absent any guiding human hand,” U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell found.

The opinion stressed, “Human authorship is a bedrock requirement.”

The push for protection of works created by AI has been spearheaded by Thaler, chief executive of neural network firm Imagination Engines. In 2018, he listed an AI system, the Creativity Machine, as the sole creator of an artwork called A Recent Entrance to Paradise, which was described as “autonomously created by a computer algorithm running on a machine.” The Copyright Office denied the application on the grounds that “the nexus between the human mind and creative expression” is a crucial element of protection.

Thaler, who listed himself as the owner of the copyright under the work-for-hire doctrine, sued in a lawsuit contesting the denial and the office’s human authorship requirement. He argued that AI should be acknowledged “as an author where it otherwise meets authorship criteria,” with any ownership vesting in the machine’s owner. His complaint argued that the office’s refusal was “arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion and not in accordance with the law” in violation of the Administrative Procedure Act, which provides for judicial review of agency actions. The question presented in the suit was whether a work generated solely by a computer falls under the protection of copyright law.

“In the absence of any human involvement in the creation of the work, the clear and straightforward answer is the one given by the Register: No,” Howell wrote.

U.S. copyright law, she underscored, “protects only works of human creation” and is “designed to adapt with the times.” There’s been a consistent understanding that human creativity is “at the core of copyrightability, even as that human creativity is channeled through new tools or into new media,” the ruling stated.

While cameras generated a mechanical reproduction of a scene, she explained that it does so only after a human develops a “mental conception” of the photo, which is a product of decisions like where the subject stands, arrangements and lighting, among other choices.

“Human involvement in, and ultimate creative control over, the work at issue was key to the conclusion that the new type of work fell within the bounds of copyright,” Howell wrote.

Various courts have reached the same conclusion. In one of the leading cases on copyright authorship, Burrow-Giles Lithographic Company v. Sarony, the Supreme Court held that there was “no doubt” that protection can be extended to photographs as long as “they are representative of original intellectual conceptions of the author.” The justices exclusively referred to such authors as human, describing them as a class of “persons” and a copyright as the “right of a man to the production of his own genius or intellect.”

In another case, the a federal appeals court said that a photo captured by a monkey can’t be granted a copyright since animals don’t qualify for protection, though the suit was decided on other grounds. Howell cited the ruling in her decision. “Plaintiff can point to no case in which a court has recognized copyright in a work originating with a non-human,” the order, which granted summary judgment in favor of the copyright office, stated.

The judge also explored the purpose of copyright law, which she said is to encourage “human individuals to engage in” creation. Copyrights and patents, she said, were conceived as “forms of property that the government was established to protect, and it was understood that recognizing exclusive rights in that property would further the public good by incentivizing individuals to create and invent.” The ruling continued, “The act of human creation—and how to best encourage human individuals to engage in that creation, and thereby promote science and the useful arts—was thus central to American copyright from its very inception.” Copyright law wasn’t designed to reach non-human actors, Howell said.

The order was delivered as courts weigh the legality of AI companies training their systems on copyrighted works. The suits, filed by artists and artists in California federal court, allege copyright infringement and could result in the firms having to destroy their large language models.

In March, the copyright office affirmed that most works generated by AI aren’t copyrightable but clarified that AI-assisted materials qualify for protection in certain instances. An application for a work created with the help of AI can support a copyright claim if a human “selected or arranged” it in a “sufficiently creative way that the resulting work constitutes an original work of authorship,” it said.

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[-] Chozo@kbin.social 141 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't post the entire article in the OP, please. You'll end up getting C&D's sent to your instance admins if publishers keep seeing this, because it's - ironically enough in this context - copyright infringement.

Just post a snippet to stay within fair use. Don't ruin Lemmy for all of us over something so silly.

[-] Danc4498@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Or, even better, use AI to generate a tldr.

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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago

Hope: AI gets so good that people using a personal computer can produce full TV series with a single prompt, delare it uncopyrightable, and share the best results online as a alternative to corporate stuff.

Fear: IP law becomes so disconnected from the current situation that it prompts governments start over from scratch. New IP law is written by the corporations for the corporations, and any form of creativity is restricted and monetized.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It sorta already happens. No one owns the copywrite to vampires hence all the stuff that is only slightly above fanfics becoming big. You are welcome to hate on Twilight but you can't deny it's popularity.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 56 points 1 year ago

That's great! It means artists can continue to use AI art for projects they don't intend to sell, and Hollywood, which already has too much power, still relies on others.

[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 32 points 1 year ago

Artists can still make money and copyright their stuff. You just can't use exclusively AI to create the images. Cleaning up an AI generated image count as artistic work. Color correct, add missing fingers, make the eyes point the same way, remove background monstrosities. It all adds up.

Unfortunately this also goes for Hollywood. They can generate the bulk of the work and have one guy do the editing and suddenly they own the edit.

The real losers in this are the people that generate images with no modifications and post it as is while pretending that they are doing art.

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[-] Arotrios@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago

It looks like the key in the ruling here was that the AI created the work without the participation of a human artist. Thaler tried to let his AI, "The Creativity Machine" register the copyright, and then claim that he owned it under the work for hire clause.

The case was ridiculous, to be honest. It was clearly designed as an attempt to give corporations building these AI's the copyrights to the work they generate from stealing the work of thousands of human artists. What's clever here is that they were also trying to sideline the human operators of AI prompts. If the AI, and not the human prompting it, owns the copyright, then the company that owns that AI owns the copyright - even if the human operator doesn't work for them.

You can see how open this interpretation would be to abuse by corporate owners of AI, and why Thaler brought the case, which was clearly designed to set a precedent that would allow any media company with an AI to cut out human content creators entirely.

The ruling is excellent, and I'm glad Judge Howell saw the nuances and the long term effects of her decision. I was particularly happy to see this part:

In March, the copyright office affirmed that most works generated by AI aren’t copyrightable but clarified that AI-assisted materials qualify for protection in certain instances. An application for a work created with the help of AI can support a copyright claim if a human “selected or arranged” it in a “sufficiently creative way that the resulting work constitutes an original work of authorship,” it said.

This protects a wide swath of artists who are doing incredible AI assisted work, without granting media companies a stranglehold on the output of the new technology.

[-] GunnarRunnar@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I wonder could you interpret this as AI created movie script isn't copyrightable but the actual filmed movie is. That would invite some weird competition, like we've seen over the years with the copycat movies.

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[-] jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This doesn't change much because of a simple difference: This was an AI product put in wholesale.

There was no human intervention in (visually) creating this product, thus no human can claim copyright.

Studios aren't gonna do this when replacing some of their writers, because AI may not be good enough yet. Instead, it'll be a smaller team, they'll do the edits, and they can claim copyright.

This only really matters If AI advances to the point where we can completely create a full movie or TV show from scratch with just purely prompting, which, currently, we can not.

[-] Lyrl@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A spoof of Seinfeld runs 24/7 from only AI input after the initial prompt. It is bad, but exists. Depending on your quality standards, we are there. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing,_Forever

[-] aidan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The rigging and models are copyrightable.

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[-] fosho@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

couldn't help but lol at this quote:

US copyright law is designed to adapt to the times.

[-] scottywh@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

"To the times Disney pays people off enough..."

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[-] Zardoz@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

Hollywood will just do what they always do. Pour billions more into lobbying the government until they pass something that will allow certain exemptions.

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[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

This doesn't mean artists or movie studios can't make AI creations and sell them. It just means they can't stop people from copying and distributing them.

If a well regarded artist uses generative AI to make art, then prints a single copy or a limited edition and signs them, they can sell them. Other people can copy it, but it won't be the same. They won't have the same value as the ones the artist produced, and they won't be signed.

[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The hollywood model is based on ownership of IP. Can you imagine if "Stranger things" was AI generated by Netflix, had a hit first season, then Disney released a second season with new actors? Meanwhile, CBS premieres "Stranger things : Miami?"

It would be a mess and put their entire business model into a tailspin.

This ruling may be the biggest bouy the writers have gotten so far in their strike.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe this is wrong. They can't copyright an AI-generated script, but the performance and film based on a script is copyrightable.

Think about this: can you copy and sell the Leonardo and Claire Danes Romeo and Juliet because Shakespeare's work is in the public domain? No. You cannot.

[-] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

Disney has spent a lot of time and money making sure that their characters can't be used by anyone else, including extending copyright law each time the 'steamboat willie' version of Mickey Mouse would enter public domain.

I think they will care a lot that they can't copyright ai-generated characters.

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[-] Set_secret@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 year ago

seems a pretty easy solution here. just say you've written it.. no reliable software exists for proving text is AI generated.

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Doing that under oath is a crime, so those claiming copyright and their employees would be taking a lot of risk of eventually being discovered.

[-] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

"Need to get away with murder? Easy! Just say 'it wasn't me, it must of been someone else who done it'. For bonus points, combine with a wink to the hot judge/juror of your choice."

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[-] Thisisforfun@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I changed some words. Now it's mine. I dunno, error, search and replace "Mike" to "Michael".

[-] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago

As a person who creates both visual arts and music, though admittedly for my own enjoyment alone, I can't bring myself to ever recognize any of the AI generated stuff as Art. None of it is any good if you look at it close. It's wrong in every way. The machines were supposed to come for our jobs, but that was supposed to mean factory production and construction and shit.

[-] demlet@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

It's not about being technically good or not for me, it's a question of expression. A human can express internal thoughts and feelings. An AI, at least the ones we currently have, can only do an awkward imitation. There's no intention or awareness.

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[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately at worst the machine will only improve to the point where it is unnoticable.

Its a program designed exactly to be bullied into place by humans, were just only halfway through the bullying and still coorp's are pushing it like its done.

Eventually it'll have to be accepted as just another tool by artists.

That being said I support copyright less than I do "AI rights" so I'd say this is an overall win

[-] LemmynySnicket@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

If you think art is at all dependent on each individual recognizing it as good, then I think you've completely missed the point of a lot of art. Most art only appeals to some.

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[-] ineedaunion@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Fuck Corporate America and all it's Bootlicking sellout enablers.

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[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

You didn't create it so why the hell should you be able to copyright it?

[-] 8BitRoadTrip@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

Interesting that he filed the original copyright application as a work for hire situation. I guarantee he didn’t pay AI anything .

[-] Deiv@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

Yea, I spoke to Al. The dudes pissed, didn't get paid shit

[-] AKADAP@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

This limitation is too easy to get around. Have AI generate a picture. Take a photo of that picture and destroy the original. Copyright is now owned by the photographer. Have an AI write some music, change one note of that music and call in your arrangement of that piece, destroy the original music, and only your arrangement that you have a copyright on exists. etc.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

As a photographer that knows copyright law, I assure you flat-art copying a work of art does not make it yours.

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[-] Millie@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Talk about an inaccurate headline. The conclusion here isn't that AI art can't be copyrighted, it's that AI cannot be a copyright holder. But it's AI, so we can't actually expect anyone to pull their head out of their ass and give it enough thought to write an article that isn't garbage.

Instead we have yet another thread about this case in which no one actually has any idea what the ruling was. Very informative.

[-] Pipoca@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

From the opinion;

Both parties have now moved for summary judgment, which motions present the sole issue of whether a work generated entirely by an artificial system absent human involvement should be eligible for copyright. See Pl.’s Mot. Summ. J. (Pl.’s Mot.”), ECF No. 16; Defs.’ Cross-Mot. Summ. J. (“Defs.’ Mot.”), ECF No. 17. For the reasons explained below, defendants are correct that human authorship is an essential part of a valid copyright claim, and therefore plaintiff’s pending motion for summary judgment is denied and defendants’ pending cross-motion for summary judgment is granted.

AI being the copyright holder was never even in question. Some guy tried to register AI art in his company's name, using the AI as the author of a work for hire. The Court found that he couldn't get the copyright as a work for hire since no copyright existed in the first place.

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[-] Danc4498@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

So, if I use AI, then tweak it in photoshop, is us human created and now able to be copyrighted?

[-] Zeth0s@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Basically it's how already works with cameras. Subjects and composition are enough to copyright images. Even without post-processing

[-] Desistance@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

The Judge is right. AI is not a living citizen.

[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago
[-] kool_newt@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

The question seems to boil down to, should a person that triggers automation that generates output be considered the author of that output and deserve compensation for it?

Does a person who presses "Enter" on a computer deserve "compensation" for that?

[-] freecandy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Prompt engineering is becoming a desired skill🫠

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[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Well, of course not, because since some diffusion generation are deterministic, that would mean that a specific set of parameters is now copyrighted, so nobody else gets to type in that particular set of numbers into the UI without paying the copyright holder, which of course makes no sense.

Same reason you can't copyright, say, cooking recipe for a burger.

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[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


More than 100 days into the writers strike, fears have kept mounting over the possibility of studios deploying generative artificial intelligence to completely pen scripts.

The ruling was delivered in an order turning down Stephen Thaler’s bid challenging the government’s position refusing to register works made by AI.

Copyright law has “never stretched so far” to “protect works generated by new forms of technology operating absent any guiding human hand,” U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell found.

His complaint argued that the office’s refusal was “arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion and not in accordance with the law” in violation of the Administrative Procedure Act, which provides for judicial review of agency actions.

While cameras generated a mechanical reproduction of a scene, she explained that it does so only after a human develops a “mental conception” of the photo, which is a product of decisions like where the subject stands, arrangements and lighting, among other choices.

In another case, the a federal appeals court said that a photo captured by a monkey can’t be granted a copyright since animals don’t qualify for protection, though the suit was decided on other grounds.


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