[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago

I don't think they have the correct analysis on electoralism but I do recommend that people join PSL (and educate themselves so that they can be ready to join) if that is their preference, as they are revolutionary comrades with 99% good things going.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Right, so nobody should support either genocidal candidate, but especially the one actually doing genocide right now.

Re: fascist autocracy, this doesn't really describe the MAGA political class, which remains fundamentally liberal, just openly reactionary instead of pandering and politely reactionary. You'll notice that the Biden-Harris administration has continued many salient "fascist" policies from the previous admin and even tried to flank from the right on immigration.

Fascism is a historical development that uniquely opposed an ascendant leftism during liberal imperialist crisis. The conditions in the USA do not qualify.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml -3 points 5 days ago

Fun fact: that guy harassed that tank, which tried to avoid him and then stopped. He climbed on it, then walked away. Overall, uneventful. This footage has been available for decades.

Liberals still believe he got squished based purely on vibes and propaganda.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml -4 points 6 days ago

I will take this to mean you have no reply. I accept your surrender and will gladly ignore the inevitable bad faith response.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml -3 points 6 days ago

Blaming me for your behavior Is irrational and bad faith.

I don't have any behavior requiring blame, my behaviot is good. I advocate against genocide, for example. I have never "blamed" you for what I am doing. I would commend you if you opposed genocide and responded germanely.

Unfortunately, at this point you are just repeating phrases in word salads.

Lying about what happened here

I have not lied at any point. Feel free to tell me what I have said that is even incorrect. This would fly in the face of your current behavior so I won't hold my breath.

just because I pointed out the flaws in your argument is also irrational.

I don't believe this conversion has ever gotten to the point of anyone making any arguments. I think the closest thing to an argument was the "this is complex" reference but rather than defend it you fell apart.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml -2 points 6 days ago

I agree, case in point.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

A dishonest misquote, aping of my language without any substance behind it. Absurd straw men. Not addressing a single thing that I said.

And all because I say you should be against genocide and should work against genociders, not support them. This truly broke something in you, didn't? It's a shame it has only led to doubling down and dishonest behavior.

Is this the "rational person" you referred to?

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

This did not begin with you engaging in good faith with what I said, lol. As I said originally, I (clearly correctly) interpreted you as having a defensive posturing, not one showing any interest in understanding. It has only been downhill from there. At this point your comments are just word salad and attempts at quips and insults. You have no actual replies to what I say, so you are also inventing things and using terms that you don't understand incorrectly.

I invite you to show me some of this "rational person". I assume that such a person has no need for straw men and pretending to know words just because they sound like a good zinger. I assume that such a person can directly address what I say rather than being evasive.

Alas.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

I'll take that to mean you have no response to what I said.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Please do your best to engage in good faith with what I have said.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

Oh, so is it amnesia then? Because you seemed pretty clear on the topic of discussion until I cornered you. Then, magically - or just conveniently - you have forgotten what we’re talking about.

Feel free to rephrase and expound on what you said. I do not see how it applied to what we were talking about, and therefore don't see its meaning.

And pretending to be psychic and read my mind (or, perhaps, hallucinating) via the internet doesn’t make you right. How is that even rational?

As I said, I recognize behaviors and clichés. And you have not yet contradicted a single prediction and have accidentally confirmed a few.

Why should anyone believe what you say when it’s clearly either a bad-faith argument full of disinformation or evidence of your ignorance and inability to comment intelligently on this topic?

I have made no bad faith arguments nor presented any disinformation. Please do your best to not make things up and to address what I have actually said.

And, of course, you should be against genocide and act accordingly.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

If you're talking the current genocide, yes, it absolutely started 10/7.

US support for this genocide far predates 10/7. The US props up the apartheid Zionist regime in all its racism and the maintenance of the concentration camp that is Gaza. It donates weapons, provides logistical support, sends a running stipend in the billions, provides diplomatic support, creates the PR and media consciousness for Hasnard to the point that a person might think the US didn't support this genocide until 10/7.

Instead of doubling down when you are obviously wrong, please learn this lesson in humility and act more appropriately next time so as not to disrespect yourself nor the pro-genocide status quo.

If you're talking the 1939 style ghettoization of Palestinians in Gaza, yeah, that's been going on for 30 years.

The Zionist entity only exists at all with its imperial sponsors. First the British then the Americans. Every JDAM used by the zionist entity to blow up hospitals and schools and mosques and churches and residential blocks was produced by Boeing and paid for by the US government. There is no delineation in US support for Israel re: October 7, just a quantitative increase in already qualitative support. Without ongoing American support they would not have even attempted their traditional terrorist bombing campaign directed at the civilians WMD infrastructure of Gaza.

Don't be silly.

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