[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 65 points 4 months ago

Any chance the relevant incident could be unpacked and used as a demonstration of how these changes would alter the outcome or encourage a different outcome?

As someone who only saw pieces of it after the fact, I am potentially in the dark here about the purposes and context of these changes.

That being said, from what I did see, it seemed very much like an instance admin imposing themselves and their superior power on a community when there were probably plenty of other more subtle action that could have been taken, where subtlety becomes vital for any issue complex and nuanced enough to be handled remotely well. I'm not sure I'm seeing any awareness of this in this post and the links provided.

For instance, AFAICT, the "incident" involved a discussion of if or how a domestic cat could eat a vegan diet. Obviously that's not trivial as they, like humans, have some necessary nutrients, and AFAICT the vegans involved were talking about how it could be done, while the admin involved was basically having none of that and removed content on the basis that it would lead to a cat dying.

And then in the misinformation link we have:

We also reserve the right to remove any sufficiently scientifically proven MALICIOUS information posted which a user may follow, which would result in either IMMINENT PHYSICAL harm to an INDIVIDUALS PROPERTY, the PROPERTY of OTHERS or OTHER LIVING BEINGS.

In the context of cats and their food ... which "living beings" are being harmed and who is encouraging or discouraging this harm?

Whether you're vegan or not, this seems to me formally ambiguous and on the face of it only enshrines the source of the conflict rather than facilitating better forms of communication or resolution (perhaps there are things in the by-laws I've missed??).

Two groups can have exactly the same aim and core values (reduce harm to living beings) but in the complexity of the issue come to issue a bunch of friendly fire ... that's how complex issues work.

So, back to my original question ... how exactly would things be done better?

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 65 points 6 months ago

Kinda funny, not too long ago it was a fun mental exercise if you were paying attention to the tech industry to try to think of the ways in which Google or MS could fall.

Now, AFAICT, neither are falling any time soon, but there certainly seems to be a shift in how they're perceived and how their brand sits in the market (where even so I'm still probably in a bubble on this).

But I'm not sure how predictable it would have been that both would look silly stumbling for AI dominance.

And, yea, I'm chalking recall up to the AI race as it seems like a grab for training data to me, and IIRC there were some clues around that this could be true.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 64 points 7 months ago

Yea. It's almost like caring about your craft and being motivated chiefly to just make good things and fix things ... aren't terrible character traits?!?

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submitted 8 months ago by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

They’re not done yet. Just announcing (and the verge reporting on it).

Their announcement (here) is quite forceful though, interestingly. The article described it as a manifesto.

See also a recent post here about their survey on integrating activity pub: https://lemmy.ml/post/14734757

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 65 points 8 months ago

Yea. Along with web rings, human-focused search and just harbouring communities better ... we gotta start building people-focused online gardens and ditch this capitalistic hustle shit.

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submitted 8 months ago by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml

Oooff ... I don't think it's like MKBHD to come down so hard on a product. But this thing seemed weird (and probably dumb) when it was launched and so I guess this lines up.

Not that a wearable assistant doesn't make some sense, but some former Apple higher ups who think they're good enough to disrupt the smartphone market by ... checks notes ... relying entirely on other companys' new/untested/problematic/maybe-just-shit AI services and pretending that all of the other "smart" devices we have just don't exist in some sort of volley in the ongoing platform wars ... really does kinda epitomise all of shittiness of the current tech world.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 55 points 8 months ago

Multi communities. They would be a big deal IMO. If you could have multiple saved into a list so that you could check different feeds depending on what you’re interested in, it would be much better. Combine that with the scaled sort (as well as the others), and you’re managing your feed very well IMO.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 59 points 9 months ago

It’s not just true, there’s a history of this mentioned in the replies to the original masto comment. Pixelfed is a direct competitor/alternative to instagram and meta’s has a pretty clear policy of not giving it any airtime on their platforms.

Why, well they dominate the instagram style platform space (and I’d guess it’s their biggest platform ATM and most prospective going forward). Twitter-style platforms are new for them and introduce monopoly issues … so they toy with the fediverse to allay potential issues.

I think all of the schmoozing the likes of Evan, Gargron etc are doing with meta (they have active accounts on Threads AFAIU, for instance) will reveal their true colours (techbro growth mindset just the hipster way) and leave them with egg on their face.

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submitted 9 months ago by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/12904730

It seems they’re not far from finishing and have the first few chapters up for early access and feedback. It could be the go to text for learning the protocol.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 71 points 9 months ago

A strong but older example of this is driving crimes. For a while killing someone while driving was just prosecuted as manslaughter (accidental killing), cuz that’s what it is. But juries weren’t convicting very often.

Someone realised that people didn’t like the idea that you could commit manslaughter, a very serious crime, just be driving your car and making a mistake. And so a new crime was created called reckless driving or something similar. It had a similar jail time but different terminology. And it got juries convicting more.

Clearly people have for a long time preferred to not think about just how absurdly violent or dangerous the act of driving is, to the point that killing with a car just didn’t count as a normal killing crime.

this will vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction of course.

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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

Seen some conversations recently about taking a general discussion thread here onto discord/matrix for "real time chat".

It then struck me, as someone who's been on lemmy since before the Reddit API migration ... that lemmy used to be more "real time" than it is now with the front-end receiving updates over websockets.

Coupled with the "chat" sort for comments (which is buggy I think), you could turn any post into a live chat.

Obviously you wouldn't want too many of these as they burden the backend. But it could be a nice feature, using mostly old lemmy tech (?), to allow selected posts to become "live chats".

It would probably make sense to add time limits for how long this can be on for, and maybe to add limits for how many posts per community ... all configurable by admins. But also it could make mega-threads and free-form discussions much more dynamic and attractive here.

EDIT:

There could be both user-specific and post-specific modes for this too.

Any particular user could be able to turn on chat mode for them, so that comments are flattened and updates happen automatically, but just for them. Limiting this in someway on a user based would make sense.

Then a particular post could be put into "chat mode", such that everybody who opens the post does so in "chat mode" automatically, unless they opt out. Again, limitations on how many posts and for long they stay in "chat mode" make sense here.

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submitted 10 months ago by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/programming@programming.dev

Hi all,

We've started a new community for learning rust and/or the lemmy codebase together.

Come join in: !learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

The idea is that there are probably a good amount of people interested in learning rust, or, interested in contributing to or using the lemmy codebase, but find it difficult to get started ... so basically why not start a sort of study group or reading group or support channel style of community? Here's where the idea was originally suggested: https://lemmy.ml/post/11232276

We're just putting the place together and sorting out how it could work, but all kinds of inputs and levels of expertise are welcome!

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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

As suggested in a previous post here (see https://lemmy.ml/post/11232276) I've created a community for learning rust and lemmy.

Please come and join in: !learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml

Before spreading the word outside of this community, I figure I'll let those interested from here join first and start a conversation about how the place should work (on which you'll find a meta thread in the community).

Tagging those who expressed interest:

@pseudo@jlai.lu , @ExLisper@linux.community , @CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml , @nutomic@lemmy.ml , @Jomn@jlai.lu , @Binette@lemmy.ml , @MxRemy@lemmy.one , @nix@merv.news , @lambdabeta@lemmy.ca , @sorrybookbroke@sh.itjust.works , @halcyon@slrpnk.net , @otter@lemmy.ca , @mozz@mbin.grits.dev .

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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

EDIT: Since posting, I've started such a community: https://lemmy.ml/c/learningrustandlemmy, !learningrustandlemmy@lemmy.ml. Please come and join in.


The idea comes from the discussion that occurred over the new lemmy-clone or alternative, SubLinks and how its main feature is that its tech stack is different from lemmy's which should enable all of the developers who don't know rust to contribute.

One of the core lemmy devs (dessalines I believe) said responded to these general sentiments by saying something to the effect of rust being a good technical choice and that learning rust in order to contribute would be a good expenditure of time (as tech people need to learn new things all the time anyway).

Soooo ... for those interested ... how about we all learn together rust through learning about ActivityPub and Lemmy's codebase and solving problems and making contributions? We could have a community dedicated to asking questions, sharing solutions or ideas and generally discussing all things we're learning about rust, activitypub, fediverse and lemmy? If an actual community can be built around the desire to learn rust and give back to lemmy with all us newbs working together as much as posslbe ... that would have to be a win right?

Even better if those who know more about the topic could use the community as a chance to post or write up what they know for us to learn from. For instance, I've glanced at lemmy's code base (without knowing rust of course) and I feel like it could do with an architecture birds-eye perspective on how the code base works.

Obviously chatting on matrix might be a good place for this, especially as devs and admins are chatting there already ... but I feel like the structure of lemmy might be a better place for a sort of reading club.

Any thoughts or takers? I feel like creating the community on lemmy.ml would make sense, maybe having one of the core devs as a mod too?

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 49 points 11 months ago

Similarly with twitter and mastodon. Generally, that's fine ... smaller niche online spaces are a good thing (as many who've remained have discovered I suspect).

But in the end, for those who see this fediverse project as a mission to "take back the web" ... so far only pretty minor movement has been made on that front. To the point that IMO I wouldn't be surprised if Twitter etc just "win" and the whole "alternative" social media thing stays "alternative" and relatively small. If there's a chance of this, I'd say to fediverse advocates that they should maybe rethink what the fediverse is and what it's good and not good for, because there's a real chance here that the fediverse kinda dropped the ball, especially mastodon which has been going strong for a while now.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 67 points 11 months ago

It controls a military drone.

It controls surgical equipment.

It’s filtering your CV before any human sees it.

It controls a robot taking care of your children.

It’s involved in law enforcement or legal judgments.

It’s involved in government policy setting.

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submitted 11 months ago by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://hachyderm.io/users/maegul/statuses/111820598712013429

Is decentralised federated social media over engineered?

Can't get this brain fart out of my head.

What would the simplest, FOSS, alternative look like and would it be worth it?

Quick thoughts:

* FOSS platforms intended to be big single servers, but dedicated to ...
* Shared/Single Sign On
* Easy cross posting
* Enabling and building universal Multi-platform clients.
* Unlike email, supporting small servers

No duplication/federation/protocol required, just software.

#fediverse
@fediverse

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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

Title ... I posted about this previously here (https://lemmy.ml/post/10395138).

The community "tenforward" on lemmy.world seems to have ceased federating around 5 days ago (which could be in line with the 19.2 update on lemmy.ml?).

No posts are coming through onto lemmy.ml (and yes I subscribed well before this).

Here's the lemmy.ml mirror: https://lemmy.ml/c/tenforward@lemmy.world?dataType=Post&sort=New

... and the lemmy.world "home": https://lemmy.world/c/tenforward?dataType=Post&page=1&sort=New

For comparison, here is the lemm.ee mirror, which is also on 19.2 and seems to be receiving posts just fine: https://lemm.ee/c/tenforward@lemmy.world?dataType=Post&sort=New

If it's relevant, comments are federating back to lemmy.world. I tried commenting on one of the (older) posts from lemmy.ml and it federated over to lemmy.world fine (here's the lemmy.world mirror of the comment: https://lemmy.world/comment/6699443). I haven't tried posts because they might be annoying.

Seems to be weird but drastic bug. Could be a weird edge case that was arbitrarily triggered by the looks of it?

EDIT (further information)

As a point of comparison, here's a random community on lemmy.world I found (which I think is new as I sorted by New in the community search) which is federating fine with lemmy.ml: https://lemmy.ml/c/noshitsherlock@lemmy.world

Additionally, regarding the test comment I mentioned above, subsequent replies have since flowed through to lemmy.ml just fine: https://lemmy.ml/comment/7387000

... and mirrored accurately on lemmy.world too: https://lemmy.world/comment/6699443

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submitted 11 months ago by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

I think spotted an example of federation failing between lemmy.ml, even after the update to 19.2, and Lemmy.world, which is still on 18.5.

If you look at the TenForward community on lemmy.ml (https://lemmy.ml/c/tenforward@lemmy.world?dataType=Post&sort=New) and compare to its lemmy.world version (which is its home) (https://lemmy.world/c/tenforward) … you’ll see lemmy.ml is behind about 2 days.

Haven’t seen any other examples like this, even from lemmy.world though I haven’t gone looking for them either.

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by maegul@lemmy.ml to c/lemmy@lemmy.ml

Only seen it the past hour or so but I’ve already set it as my default. It seems to work exactly as I’d hoped where smaller but no less interesting communities get their posts higher in my feed.

This could be a huge change and I think lemmy would benefit from those of us caring about the idea being vocal about it and assessing its efficacy.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago

I was under the impression that Thread / Matter is not an apple thing at all but effectively a new-ish common standard?

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 49 points 1 year ago

How fitting and wonderful that we manifest something truly like a fantasy world.

Oh, I’ve read of such problems, they’re ancient but still haunt some even now after the downfall of stackoverflow.

Are there known solutions or packages I can install?

Not amongst us or on these platforms. Nay perhaps not even on this protocol. Grey beards and 90s hackers you must seek, those whose craft comes from before the .com bubble and even Keanu Reeves. Many secrets they know that have since been lost and much of our ways do they shun.

Where can I find these hackers?

If they still wield their keyboards, you may find them in Newsgroups.

What URL will guide me the way?

Oh My child, URLs will not help you. You must learn to navigate the Usenet and its Newsgroups. Come, Drægōnëḏgelôṟḏ will show you the way.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 year ago

So, in short, the whole “just someone else’s computer” thing will always come back to bite you. And of course, we’re still struggling with this. Here on the Fedi, everything is tied up on servers run by admins we know little about without much recourse to download archives or migrate, unless you’re up for full self hosting.

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