Create a level ground then. Beehaw never said they are a level ground, they are an instance that doesnt want rightoids arguing in bad faith, the same way exploding heads wouldnt want an army of lefties coming in and injecting themselves into every thread.

A level ground where people of whatever affiliation can converse is a great idea. Beehaw doesnt have to be that place

I think people would be surprised at the amount of instances that have already been broadly defederated.

Its just that the beehaw defederation is the first "big" incident since broader adoption, and thats for very understandable reasons with a roadmap to refederation already in place.

The only people who get angry about an instance being defederated are the types who want to act in bad faith. They know if they join the instance they got defederated from they will be banned if they spruik the shit that got the instance defederated in the first place, so they are angry that no one wants to listen to their shit.

It sucks for legitimate users that get caught up, but if youre a good user willing to participate in good faith, just join another instance and carry on.

I dont see why defederation is seen as a sensitive topic.

Its a great feature, designed for specifically this purpose.

Over time people will migrate between instances and land where they fit. Some people want to be abrasive cunts, and they will land with the other abrasive cunts. Thats great, they have an instance they can do what they want on.

For the rest of us though, we dont want to see their bad faith articles and abrasiveness on our feeds. No one is being limited in their speech, but they might be limited in their reach. If they want to expand their reach, they can join a more broadly federated instance and ditch the bad faith arguments and abrasiveness.

Its the kids table at the dinner party. You can join the adults table if you behave in a way that is suitable for the adults, if not go back and play with the kids and everyone is happy.

"Official" is such a strange term and im truly looking forward to the end of the "migration" period.

I get that people want a similar experience to their reddit feed, but I dont understand why people see reddit affiliated communities as the best options.

At some point its better to just tear the bandaid off.

Hard disagree.

Tiktok is popular. Its hold very little value to lots of people though. Same thing with twitter.

For me, reddits value was from its popularity amongst a certain demographic, which was largely the techies. At this point enough techies have come over to the fediverse that so far its meeting or exceeding the reddit itch.

Id rather a community of 10,000 people who are mostly tech driven than a community of 10,000,000 with 10,000 techy types. Popular reddit posts had thousands of the same played out comments and comment chains languishing at the bottom of threads. Popular threads on the fediverse so far have people engaging in conversation without a collapsed thread of 4000 ignored posts at the bottom.

Popularity means nothing when its mostly people with nothing worthwhile to say except the same played out jokes and memes

Posts do get pushed through, its just been a period of heavily increased traffic the last week or so, and many instances have had to tame measures to stay online at all, which in many cases has broken or slowed down the propagation.

These are issues that will be resolved in time

Is it our property though?

Intellectually speaking yes, but legally speaking? Probably not. Chances are if its stored on their servers, it belongs to them.