[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

You had to name it like that, didn't you?

[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

See, this is what I think people get wrong about ad tech: the problem are not the ads themselves, but the tracking. I'm completely fine with ads, as long as I'm not tracked by their provider

[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

OK just a couple of points here. I'm not gonna be brief because I care about all this. Sorry.

De-federating from Threads is not the same thing as de-federating from the BBC, it's another issue entirely. Those who did it explained their choice with the fear that Meta could somehow "embrace, extend, and extinguish" Mastodon, plus with the fear of data collection etc etc. Now I'm not saying they are right (I don't even know where I stand on this), but if those are their fears, we're talking about the destruction of Mastodon itself. Which is not even comparable to what the BBC's instance could do.

About the trasphobia itself: what the BBC did or did not do is besides the point: the BBC is too relevant to just block it willy-nilly, and also very reductive. If you block it, you throw away the baby with the bath water.

I would also dispute the idea that the BBC is "largely conservative", but even that's beside the point. Let's pretend that it is: so what? Being conservative is not a crime and not all conservatives are Trump. I'm not conservative by any means, but I still want to see and hear what conservatives think. As a left-leaning dude, I WANT to know what they are up to.

My fear is that we're weaponizing the Fediverse to create communities which are completely sheltered by the actual world. For all its flaws, Twitter was great in that it showed you a bit of everything. I don't want to see the Fediverse become a series of spaces where people only agree with each other and don't even want to engage in a discussion with someone they don't agree with. What we're both doing right now (disagreeing and debating) is so much more valuable that people think.

Lastly: being on it since 2017, I know full well how the fediverse works. And no, migrating from one Mastodon instance to another is not easy by any means. This article gained some traction recently and it explains why. But even this is besides the point. First, because ideally, you should not have to migrate to another instance. It's possible, but is sucks. Second, because I'm talking about some cultural aspects of the Fediverse, and bringing the discussion to a technical level is a moot point.

My question and my whole point is this: is there a risk that the Fediverse is becoming an instrument to isolate ourselves from everything we don't agree with? I.e. an instrrument of isolation instead of an instrument of federation?

[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I get it, but picture this: a person wants to join mastodon.art because they like art. They see the rules that go "no transphobia" or whatever and they go: "OK, seems reasonable". So they join, they invest their time and energy into the instance, and one day the admin decides that the whole national broadcasting network is someway evil and transphobic and must be blocked. I'd honestly be sooo pissed.

And not because the BBC's account is absolutely necessary to a good Mastodon experience, but because blocking a whole instance for shit like this does not make sense. It's not like the BBC goes around the Fediverse harassing trans people. The idea that you must block something so huge and valuable because it is - admittedly - partly dysfunctional is fucking mental. It's the BBC, for God's sake, not the KKK.

The Fediverse only works if we stop digging trenches and we start communicating more. It's called the Fediverse, not the De-fediverse. It's autonomous communities that talk to each other, not little fiefdoms at war with one another

[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I see this shit I lose all hope in the Fediverse's success

[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

...to make the fediverse useless, yes

[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Microwaves are just quicker and more convenient. That's their whole selling point

[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yep. In-vitro studies are often unreliable. I remember a company that made natural extracts from plants claiming that their extracts killed coronavirus: they had put some coronavirus cells in a vat in contact with the their extract and it killed them.

[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Did not know about this, but it looks great! Wishlisting it

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[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

one of the test participants, who talked repeatedly about Volvo, did report that they were bombarded by advertising for the brand. This person did not even own a car, nor had they searched the Internet to buy a Volvo or any other kind of car.

[-] ominouslemon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

My thoughts exactly. The official announcement does not say anything.

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