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The influencer and podcaster stuff seems worse - women really think that $100k is like a minimum salary, the "princess treatment", etc. - like feminism has changed from being about women being able to contribute to society in the same ways as men (science and engineering, etc.) to insane expectations.
Maybe you are hanging out in the wrong communities, but that sounds like incel bullshit to me.
there were golddiggers before feminism, there is no causality.
You just can't ignore the rate of prevelance like it's nothing.
Yes, gold diggers have more-or-less always been around, but they used to be uncommon and the butt of jokes. Now they're mainstream and celebrated.
I’m afraid you’ve got it exactly backwards. What you’re describing isn’t feminism, it’s patriarchy.
I think a lot of people who aren’t familiar with feminist thought have a mistaken idea that anything that promotes female social status or harms male social status is feminism. But the patriarchy is really designed for the benefit of the wealthiest most privileged men, not all men. This princess trope is a perfect example, as it excludes men who are not able to provide that level of material support from forming relationships with women who hold such views, and reserves more options for wealthy men.
The irony of course is that many of the men who would most benefit from feminism have been tricked into thinking it is the cause of their struggles, when it is more likely to be the solution.
Feminism has a "no true scotsman" problem. Pop feminism can very much be "whatever promotes female social status," and even within academic feminism there's squabbles between schools of feminism.
Fair point. It is true that there are some schools of feminist thought that are more outright hostile to men’s interests, but they don’t have much prominence in recent times. Maybe it’s a bias from the circles I am involved in, but my perception is that the dominant forms recently are highly inclusive and egalitarian.
This is incel shit