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Uncharted territory: do AI girlfriend apps promote unhealthy expectations for human relationships?::Chatbots such as Eva AI are getting better at mimicking human interaction but some fear they feed into unhealthy beliefs around gender-based control and violence

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[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

Isn't there a rule about when headlines ask a question the answer is 'no'?

[-] Madrigal@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago
[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure Cunningham's Law says that energy is conserved in a closed physical system

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

No FAP November is right around the corner.

[-] rikonium@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s Cumminghand’s Law!

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 0 points 1 year ago
[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would guess for most people it's no. However, I would also expect this to appeal to the people where the answer is more likely to be yes. Those people are also the most vulnerable to the incel messaging though, which that will absolutely promote unhealthy expectations for relationships, so is this a net positive or negative? Idk.

[-] nivenkos@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

The influencer and podcaster stuff seems worse - women really think that $100k is like a minimum salary, the "princess treatment", etc. - like feminism has changed from being about women being able to contribute to society in the same ways as men (science and engineering, etc.) to insane expectations.

[-] greybeard@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe you are hanging out in the wrong communities, but that sounds like incel bullshit to me.

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

there were golddiggers before feminism, there is no causality.

[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

You just can't ignore the rate of prevelance like it's nothing.

Yes, gold diggers have more-or-less always been around, but they used to be uncommon and the butt of jokes. Now they're mainstream and celebrated.

[-] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago

This is incel shit

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

I’m afraid you’ve got it exactly backwards. What you’re describing isn’t feminism, it’s patriarchy.

I think a lot of people who aren’t familiar with feminist thought have a mistaken idea that anything that promotes female social status or harms male social status is feminism. But the patriarchy is really designed for the benefit of the wealthiest most privileged men, not all men. This princess trope is a perfect example, as it excludes men who are not able to provide that level of material support from forming relationships with women who hold such views, and reserves more options for wealthy men.

The irony of course is that many of the men who would most benefit from feminism have been tricked into thinking it is the cause of their struggles, when it is more likely to be the solution.

[-] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Feminism has a "no true scotsman" problem. Pop feminism can very much be "whatever promotes female social status," and even within academic feminism there's squabbles between schools of feminism.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Fair point. It is true that there are some schools of feminist thought that are more outright hostile to men’s interests, but they don’t have much prominence in recent times. Maybe it’s a bias from the circles I am involved in, but my perception is that the dominant forms recently are highly inclusive and egalitarian.

[-] kowanatsi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I think at that point you’ve kinda given up on human to human based relationship so it’s moot

[-] balder1991@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If it prevents school mass shootings, I’m all for it.

[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I would also worry about the privacy aspects, as people tend to reveal pretty personal information to each other inside of relationships. What happens when somebody reveals something illegal to an AI chatbot partner? Suddenly your partner is ratting you out to the cops, which admittedly could happen in real life anyways, but in general how much privacy do you really have. It’s kind of niche audience for now I guess, but I suspect when this function gets merged with RealDoll form factors is when this whole artificial girlfriend will really take off. At that point, when the choice becomes whether you go hunting for a real human girl who is difficult to please, unpredictable, doesn’t always do what you want, doesn’t share all your likes/fetishes, etc VS just getting an AI girlfriend that can be anything you want them to be and won’t say no to anything, I think it’s easy to see the route that many will go.

<insert Futurama ‘Don’t have sex with robots’ video>

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To me the concept of an app optimised to create deep emotional attachment ( far beyond social media, or even para social relationships with online personalities ) for monetary gain, is sketchy at best - heavily dystopian vibes at worst.

[-] brsrklf@compuverse.uk 1 points 1 year ago

It is.

Sarah Z made a video where she gets into some of the darker parts of Replika's concept and evolution. It's a fairly stinky business model.

https://youtu.be/3WSKKolgL2U

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago

Too long and not my style. But I think you just need a bit of imagination to see the problems that will arise - especially with how many frustrated young guys seem to be out there.

[-] whenever8186@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago
[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago

But also it will make shit ton of money.

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