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Scores killed in Israeli air strikes on families fleeing northern Gaza
(www.middleeasteye.net)
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Any reputable sources for this?
I wouldn't be surprised if this is true, but we should be careful not to let misinformation take over, and "middleeasteye" dot net does not scream credible to me.
https://www.msnbc.com/katy-tur/watch/70-killed-after-convoys-of-evacuees-in-gaza-hit-by-israeli-strikes-195213381735
Their about page actually paints quite an impressive history and works with many reputable journalists.
Jamal Khashoggi had previous worked for them and they were the first to get access to the tapes and share his murder with the world.
Right?
So they found an issue and acted on it, that only further shows their credibility.
The article is written by "MEE Staff" and while it mentions their journalist Maha Hussaini has left her home in the North, she wasn't the author of the article.
Other sources are not named.
This whole event is rife with mis/disinformation. It's best to be cautious.
But Shatha would have presumably published articles before being caught.
Even DW had such cases, it happens. Publications have their editorial control but they generally don't employ spy agencies to keep tabs on what everyone does in their off-time all the time.
Yes?
Do you think it’s a standard practice for all journalists to have their past social media scoured before employment?
It was found and it was handled adequately, that’s only realistically good outcome you can get in that situation.
Here's a verification of a video showing some of the aftermath of the attacks by The Washington Post. Since WaPo sometimes changes links on breaking stories, a copy is below.
It's very, very hard to believe.
What's Israel's strategy with something like that?
If their intent is to murder innocents, there's easier ways to do it with better deniability.
Will be interesting to see what other reporting emerges.
Israel wants to grow until there is no more Palestine and they have uncontested land posession
Ah, so it's just British apartheid all over again.
There was no Palestine in 1900, it was the Ottoman Empire.
They collapsed after a spanking in WW1.
BBC explains it pretty well:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-54116567
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https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine
There's a difference between a historical description of the land, and a formal Nation.
Even Mandated Palestine wasn't Palestinian-run, it was British.
It feels like splitting hairs to comment that there was no Palestine pre 1900 because it had a different name. Especially when it was referred to as Palestine by Arabs for like 2000 years, it just wasn't officially a state.
Actually it sounds like a selective retelling of history designed to imply no one had any right to it or feelings of nationalism around it prior to WWII
IIRC Jews have called the land west of the river Jordan Israel for a long time, too, 3000 years or so?
So what do we do, get into a competition to see who can find the oldest historical documents? Or just accept that we have two (or more, really) groups of people that have historical and cultural import around the same region?
And more importantly, can we do that without the constant terrorism? I think we can all agree that terrorism is bad.
To be honest I don't care about anyones special fucking book. Tracing backwards the land belongs to:
So by this whole "history culture" logic I have more of a right to Israel having been raised culturally Christian than the Jewish peoples.
But that's dumb. I'm gonna arbitrarily draw the line 100 years ago and say anyone after that can fuck off. If you have to go further back than great-great-great grandparents then you don't have a claim to it.
We can't even agree on what terrorism is. How can we agree it's bad? Israel using its forces to violently suppress a minority should be called terrorism, but it usually isn't because they're in power. It's also not called terrorism when the US bombs the fuck out of places.
Terrorism is only when those without power use violence. It's a bullshit term designed to incite emotion and not logical understanding.
It's really not if you know anything
A sound rebuttal.
Most of the major news outlets have picked this up, but their source is just the Hamas government. This at least claims to have talked to someone. Hard to know what's real, but I'm not sure even what resources the major publications have in Gaza. Seems like a dangerous place to be.
Middle East Eye does have a mostly factual rating from Media Bias Fact Check, with the mostly coming from them not revealing their ownership rather than failing fact checking.