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E.g. abortion rights, anti-LGBTQ, contempt for atheism, Christian nationalism, etc.

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[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

They’re a Republican. They don’t view LGBT issues as a human rights issue in the first place. It’s a political issue for them. Hence why they can reconcile that their opinion vs the party platform.

Again, that’s why they said they’re not anti-lgbt rather than saying they’re pro-lgbt.

They can disagree with the Republican Party on LGBT issues, because it’s a political issue for them and not a human rights issue.

[-] wantd2B1ofthestrokes@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Idk man. It just seems like you’re saying “political issue” but what you mean is “doesn’t affect them”.

And I think the whole they’re not “anti” these people they just don’t care enough about them to vote for them to have basic protections is a tough sell. At some point it’s a forced choice, and sitting out isn’t really an option.

I guess maybe it’s how they truly see it, but it doesn’t stand up to much scrutiny.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It just seems like you’re saying “political issue” but what you mean is “doesn’t affect them”.

Yeah, that is exactly what I said and what I meant. It was my point. Thank you for getting the point?

At some point it’s a forced choice, and sitting out isn’t really an option.

Idk, the fact that the Log Cabin Republicans exist kinda proves that it is. Even LGBT people can reconcile Republican ideals and their own LGBT identity. It's much easier for someone that isn't LGBT to ignore LGBT issues. And the majority of people wont have someone close to them be LGBT, making it even easier to not care about them.

[-] wantd2B1ofthestrokes@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yea it is easier for them to ignore. Choosing to ignore it is still a choice. And the effect of that choice is the continued suspension of human rights. There is no true option of sitting out.

The point is framing it as a “political issue” takes the responsibility off of them. Again, it’s true they see it that way, but all I hear is they only care about themselves.

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