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[-] raptir@lemdro.id 22 points 10 months ago

Do we need to go through what autopilot in a plane or boat actually does again?

[-] kool_newt@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago

It doesn't matter, Tesla cars are marketed to the public which isn't expected to know these things. To probably 90% of people "autopilot" means "drive automatically".

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one -3 points 10 months ago

To probably 90% of people "autopilot" means "drive automatically".

Based on what?

[-] kool_newt@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Based on my usage and understanding of the word being a lay person.

I'm an engineer myself, sometimes there are words that you have to be cognizant of the differences in meaning to other engineers vs lay people or even engineers in other fields. Some words are heavily overloaded, and "autopilot" is kinda one of them (others being "domain", "node", "artificial intelligence", etc.).

[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Tesla markets this feature as "Full Self-Driving Capability." Maybe I'm poorly informed, but to me that means that the car is fully capable of driving itself without human interaction.

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 2 points 10 months ago

FSD is an entirely separate thing. Autopilot is just an LKAS system, or adaptive cruise control.

[-] poopkins@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Aha, today I learned that Autopilot is just lane-keeping and adaptive cruise control. I feel that it must be a common misunderstanding to confuse the terms "Autopilot" and "Fully Self-Driving" in the vernacular.

Many other manufacturers refer to lane-keeping systems as "driver assistance," and I believe Tesla is intentionally misleading consumers with the impression that their system is more capable and allows the driver to pay less attention.

[-] RushingSquirrel@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Until you drive it. You know the capabilities, you know when you can and cannot activate it, you know how often it tells you to look at the road and if you don't prove you've got your hands on the wheel, it disables itself for the drive (you need to park to reactivate it). No Tesla driver thinks autopilot is more than a lane and distance keeping assistance.

Autopilot is a marketing name, that's it.

[-] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

If we do, then they shouldn't have picked a name that most people think does something it doesn't.

[-] RushingSquirrel@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

When you drive a Tesla, it's pretty clear what autopilot is. The name is a marketing term, you can't engage it everywhere and anytime, you've got to keep your hands on the wheel or it disables itself, won't stop at stop signs and red lights, won't do line changes, etc.

[-] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 10 months ago

do we need to go through the differences in training, aptitude and intelligence between pilots, captains and your neighbor Greg again? Marketing it as "autopilot" to anyone who can sign a car loan is reckless and has killed people and will continue to kill people until they stop

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one -3 points 10 months ago

Yep, just like "cruise control" made tons of people drive their car into the ocean thinking they could sail it to popular island destinations.

[-] doublejay1999@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

What does full self driving mean ?

[-] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 1 points 10 months ago

Full Self Driving and Autopilot are two totally separate systems.

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