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Did you know that reprisals for unprovoked attacks don't have to be symmetrical and that doesn't make it any less defensive?
Did you know that reprisal attacks on civilian populations and collective punishment are fucking war crimes? This isn't news; it's been well-established since the end of WW fucking 1.
But hey, continue calling Israel's war crimes 'defensive' and maybe you'll convince yourself of the holy necessity of genocide.
These attacks are against Hamas, the once-elected government of Gaza who has widespread support there, not civilian populations.
Yes yes keep crying wolf until the word genocide is meaningless.
@DarkGamer
It's not about Hamas. Without Hamas, there still would be a forced displacment and killing of civilian who stayed in Gaza, like there were before Hamas.
@PugJesus @MicroWave @gedaliyah
The blockade in its current form is because of Hamas, there was a far less restrictive blockade before they were elected. Without Hamas there is no October 7th, which means no war and no airstrikes.
It's possible that they just would have chosen a different terrorist group dedicated to genocide of Jews to back though, as they have historically. It's hard to know what lies on the path not traveled.
seems pretty obvious that there was a blockade before october 7, so it's not possible that october 7 was the start of anything.
The blockade was put in place when Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza to maintain Israel's safety, and a more restrictive one implemented when Hamas was elected. Turns out it was a pretty good idea to have security at this border and to deny them resources with which they can attack Israel. October 7th was proof that it was insufficient, and it represents a start to this war and to the bombing. Gaza fared quite better before this unprovoked attack.
a blockade is an act of war.
Indeed it can be, a blockade against Israel caused the 6-day war. The difference is, Hamas' cannot win, they can just poke the bear.
so Israel started this long before Oct 7
If you want to follow the causal chain all the way back to its source, this conflict started when Arab nationalists started murdering Jews for legally buying land in the Levant.
it's a ghetto with military-enforced borders. what would you do to the people keeping you caged?
Seemed pretty nice for a, "ghetto," and an, "open-air prison."
Can I defeat them militarily? If so I'd do that, if I can't I'd make peace and get the best terms I can. Palestine cannot win through violence.
your propaganda piece doesn't relieve the blockade, free the people arrested without trial or charge, or open the border.
it's a prison.
insurgencies win by attrition.
that just isn't something i'd do. personally, i'd wage an insurgency. i think anyone who chose to do that would be justified.
this is deflecting from the blockade that people have been living under with no end in sight. it's an open air prison: of course they tried to attack their jailers
if someone tells me they don't want me around, i don't stick around
i don't believe you
legality does not determine morality.
lmao
Yeah, we get it, you don't think Palestinians are human beings.
You keep trying to put words into my mouth, maybe focus on positions I actually hold?
Is this like when a cop bursts into your house and shoots your wife, your kid, and your dog, because they thought they smelled weed?
Because smoking weed, a victimless and harmless act, is comparable to violent hordes murdering and raping hundreds of your people? What a terrible analogy.
I've got a stack of 1950s-era literature arguing that it isn't.
Why would you describe the IDF like this? Are you anti-Semitic?
Doubling down on your terrible analogy I see.
The idf does no such thing and you know it. Being a Hamas apologist isn't a good look.
A Palestinian female freed from Israeli detention said more than 15 fellow Palestinian women were raped by Israeli interrogators to force them to confess to charges leveled against them and collaborate with the Israeli intelligence.
Not a credible source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/council-on-american-islamic-relations-cair/
Okay, enjoy yourself.
Didn't make it past the banner on the top huh?
believe women
What women? This is a biased website with low credibility supposedly sharing an anonymous account from another website as though it were factual. There isn't even a name associated with these claims. More like, "believe Hamas." I'll believe it when there's evidence presented from a credible source. There's a lot of anti-Israeli disinformation floating around and this is a known source of it.
would that you were always so incredulous.