40
Looks like KBin has an edge over Lemmy now in terms of monthly active users.
It's obviously a pretty silly thing, and is not in any way indicative of which project is "better" or more "long-term viable" or anything — instances of both federate with one another, and with the rest of fedi, so it's all one happy family.
That said, it's notable. KBin is a relative newcomer to the "Reddit-like fedi instance" game, and also does not have the tankie baggage.
Anyway, the more, the merrier!
KBin: https://the-federation.info/platform/184
Lemmy: https://the-federation.info/platform/73
Discussion on fedi: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/110527049024028986
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In what sense? Kbin is struggling with the wave of new subscriptions just as Lemmy is, and since it's a smaller project with fewer resources, it's having a harder time doing so.
That does not make the fact that at some point Kbin was ahead of Lemmy in terms of active accounts any less notable. I would even argue it makes it more notable.
I just followed the links in the post:
KBin 2,753 users Lemmy 112,013 users
I watched all the charts and every KPI have the same ratio of 1:40
Note that I am a today subscriber to Lemmy, and just took a look at KBin.
KBin is dealing with the onslaught of new users, and as it is a newer project, it's not handling it as well as Lemmy.
Also, you are looking at user accounts, I was talking about monthly active users.
Also also, biggest instance of KBin is currently out of federation (so does not show up in these stats), but it is still growing and is pretty damn huge now: https://kbin.social/stats
We shall see what happens when kbin.social re-joins federation. But also: this is not a competition. What matters is that there are independent software projects in this space.
I think the kbin numbers are deflated because >90% of kbin users are on kbin.social and they are having trouble federating. I think the numbers will bounce back once they resolve the issue.
A lot of posts there are lamenting that Lemmy is harder to sign up for, so I think the influx of users comes from kbin.social's ease of new user signups. Hopefully they can scale up and get back on the fediverse.
The fact that Kbin is handling the wave worse than Lemmy is not unrelated to the fact that Lemmy's tech stack is much lighter weight and more efficient. It is a fundamental issue with the technology. If either are going to become major players then they need exponential growth, and Lemmy is just better at that.
Sure, but it's not a competition. In the broader fedi there are instances using all sorts of stacks, including PHP-based ones (like Pixelfed), and these have instances that are huge and performant.
I do prefer the Rust stack to handle my data, but it's in no way a cut and dry case. And looking at https://kbin.social/stats, I don't know if any Lemmy instance would have handled that ind of traffic much better.
Why is that? I'm out of the loop.
Lemmy Devs are saying things in support of China's actions against the Uyghur population: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide