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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Varyk@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

I don't get it. Her music is sometimes catchy but otherwise unremarkable, from the songs I've heard. How does she break all these records and accumulate so much fame and wealth?

She's pretty, but a lot of singer songwriters are, especially those with makeup and costume people, a support staff.

Is there something else to her that people like?

I'm confused about what makes her so apparently unique or phenomenal.

Update: there are so many things that make swift unique or phenomenal.

I've received tons of great answers from people that have helped me understand, like piecing together a jigsaw puzzle, many factors that makes swift different and consequently more successful than her peers.

Clever lyrics, top-tier production, sharing autobiographical and emotional points in her life very directly, apparent honesty with few or no public blemishes, creating a community of fans through Easter eggs and house parties and unconventional, but always personal methods, an early start supported by wealthy parents, she keeps winning against abusers, and her music itself is popular and fun.

Those are just a few of the puzzle pieces contributed here, and a dive into this post is a pretty good explanation of many of the factors that must be contributing to her phenomenal success and recognition, that set her apart from other pop stars, even pop stars who were phenoms in their own right.

This is a very educational post, thank you to everyone who has contributed.

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[-] derf82@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago
[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I understand a lot of you seem to just not like Taylor Swift, which is not at all where I'm coming from.

The songs of hers that I hear and I like are fun pop songs, but I don't understand why her fun pop songs win twice as many awards as any other artist, and 20 times as much or more of most artists

[-] snek@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

My explanation is that she is a symptom of societal decline. She is in a constant news cycle, in the news every day. Just like Trump or Elon Musk, that's how she makes it further to the top. As a results, generations upon generations begin to forget that good music is possible.

Goodbye as I get downvoted to hell!

[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago

If you get down voted to hell its because you just tried to compare a decent person to Trump and Musk. Your opinion, while within your rights to shout at the world, is in my opinion completely asinine.

At least you're self aware enough to recognize that people are not gonna agree with you. So congrats, I guess.

[-] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Decent or not decent (I personally don't care), she's a rich person using the same tactics. 🤷

It's just like, marketing 101, not some kind of mystery really.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sorry, someone's got to take the bullet I guess. I upvoted you, although I think you might be interested in a lot of these answers that each explain a small part of why she's so successful.

They're really interesting taken as a whole.

Fan easter eggs in her social media, bleeding autobiographical lyrics, clever wordplay, painstaking production, rich parents, hyper emotionality, various genres, honest presented personality, there are a lot of reasons that illuminate my understanding of her as a phenomena

[-] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I'm glad you asked the question... I've been complaining to my friends on a weekly basis about Taylor Swift showing up on The Guardian, on the BBC, on the first page of the CNN under "Word News" (not even entertainment anymore!) and it angers me that anything she does is news. She has some beans and farts? NEWS. She goes to literally any place in existsnece: TOP NEWS!

Maybe it's got something to do with online news papers losing money, so they want any click-bait any sucker with some "Swiftie" news or the other... Maybe she pushes herself into these articles... Maybe both. Either way, her jet-trips are a waste of carbon emissions, like any rich person... and we will eat her first before we eat the rest of the rich (clearly the last bit is a joke).

I'm a person with no social media to not have to subscribe to celebs on those sites, yet this woman seems to follow me everywhere I go, when I'm just trying to read about my own people being genocided or about the war on Ukraine... I don't think she has any impressive musical talent (go ahead, downvote me), but she sure is talented at business and outreach.

Do I value that skill? No. Do I respect it? To an extent.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

You should check out some of these threads around us, enough of them make sense to build up a pretty solid reasoning for her popularity, at least to my understanding.

And you're right, her outreach settled our a key component, although I keep hearing about her business acumen but haven't got any concrete examples yet

[-] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Most ppl didnt say that.... they said ppl like it cuz they're told to

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