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If I vote any republican stuffs, it usually because of these big or little issues:
In some of these cases, I barely lean republican aligned. Or, I just disagree more with the Democratic parties view point/solution. That's why I don't have party affiliations. Me and trump aren't the same. I can't vote for any US presidential candidates this time, because I think they're both wrong. I have an extremely negative view of trump, I'll spare everyone. I don't want Biden either. I have lots of reasons for both of those I don't think people care about.
Neither party is against higher defense spending. Not a reason to vote Republican.
It's already illegal. How much more conservative can you get? If this is a reason to vote Republican, you must want to arrest women who have miscarriages just in case. Generally not a reason to vote Republican anymore.
Republicans don't. They just killed their own border bill. Not a reason to vote Republican.
I notice you didn't say what policy that was. So I'm going to have to assume it's "aid Russia and Israel as much as possible" since that's their current foreign policy. Probably not a good reason to vote Republican.
You mean the thing you've already had to do my entire 20+ years of voting in the U.S.? Not a reason to vote Republican.
Republicans want zero controls. Zero. Not a reason to vote Republican.
They haven't flipped on it so far. Not a reason to vote Republican.
Please give an example and then explain what Republicans have done about it.
As far as I can tell, you have not given a single good reason to vote Republican.
So I'm still going with 'people who vote Republican support fascism' and I also notice you have no critique of their LGBT+ bigotry, which also makes me think the 'support fascism' thing applies.
That's a terrible assumption of my stance on abortion. Keeping this super easy, I just don't like it. One party is against it, one is for it.
Yeah, in this election, terrible political moves for party shenanigans over the general good. But surprise. Generally, the two parties won't compromise and fix immigration, so one tries to bypass the issue by not preventing crossing. The other tries to avoid fixing it by putting up a fence. The lesser of two evils for me until the policy gets fixed is a fence. Sorry. Like I said, I want immigration fixed, but until then...
I assume you mean Ukraine? I want Ukraine supported, Rs did that until they got pissed about all the money/long. Not sure about Israel/Pal. Long term bad stuff over there I don't fully understand. I don't support mass killings of people in the streets, bombings, rockets, bulldozing people's houses, etc. That statement says I don't support either group since they've both been doing those things from what I can tell. Each's reasons why gets at the root causes, much bigger discussion.
There's more to it than those two recent conflict.
Well, that's why I disagree with any political initiative to frame that as discrimination. It's not. Otherwise, driving, buying alcohol, renting cars, etc is also all discrimination because you have to have a driver's license. Some localities have worked to allow non-residents to vote. Doesn't make sense to me.
Disagree. I think you missed the part about I disagree with eliminating guns as the main initiative. I would be more sided with the D party on guns if they would stop talking about banning assault riffles as one of the main fixes.
Reason for you I guess. So far, you haven't given me any reason to think that every person who votes for that party is a fascist, hates women, hates poor people, etc.
Again- this issue has already been decided. It is not a reason to vote Republican.
I do not. If you don't even understand the very basic fact that Republicans have been on Russia's side for this entire conflict, you are very politically naïve.
Oh, you mean the thing you have to have when you register to vote? Like I said, same thing for my entire 20+ years of voting. Have you never actually registered to vote?
You can disagree that Republicans want zero gun regulations, but unless you can name a few, your disagreement is moot.
You still haven't given me a good reason for you to vote Republican.
I didn't say they were. I said they supported people who are. Which makes them just as bad. And makes you just as bad for supporting them too, especially since you have not given one single rational reason to support them and several highly irrational explanations.
Also, you still have said nothing about the hateful, bigoted Republican position on LGBT+ people, which makes me think you agree with it.
Well, I guess we are in disagreement. - Kevin/Brooklyn 99
and absolutely not.
Some are bigots for sure, cake lady comes to mind. Again, if every person ever who claims republican is a community hating bigot, then every (minority/non-white) is a (stereotype/criminal/inflammatory statement).
I see, you just vote for bigots who hate LGBT+ people and want to oppress them.
Sorry, lastly:
This conversation being geared towards: (why vote for some things aligned with republican?) also omits all the things that would likely align with American democratic party, and personal beliefs and opinions that expand on why. Those things reveal life experience, compassion, empathy, compromise, etc. None of that is represented in a single what do you agree with exchange. Making the whole thing relate back to why a republican lady doesn't like trump. It's also why I don't judge people soley on which button they push (d/r).
And, again, if you vote for the party that wants to oppress LGBT+ people- and they do-, I will judge you.
But let me know about the Republican you've voted for that champions the rights of LGBT+ people. Name them please.
Low effort research:
That's one reason why as co-chair of Conservatives Against Discrimination, I teamed up with Centerline Action to conduct research and mobilize Republican members of Congress last year to support the passage of the RMA. Recent research from Centerline has found that nearly three-fourths (72 percent) of registered voters agree that same-sex marriage should remain legal, with a majority (56 percent) of Republicans saying the same. More than half (55 percent) of self-described Trump Republicans believe the same. Further, two-thirds (66 percent) of voters say the government should be doing more "to combat discrimination against gay and transgender Americans."
I guess we could look up the vote results from 2022.
Since I asked you to name the Republicans you have voted for who were pro-LGBT+, does this mean you voted for Ileana Ros-Lehtinen at some point between 1989 and 2019 or did you not actually bother reading what I responded to you with again?
Your attitude is poor, or at least your assumption is inaccurate. I understand you want me to admit I haven't personally voted for a politician based on their stance regarding that issue. Why? If I haven't personally voted for someone because they supported that topic, then I hate people and am an bigot?
I did read it. The point was that there were a lot more supporters in the party, meaning they don't all hate a group of people based on bigotry. Some at least try, that's better than rounding them all up in camps as fascist governments might do to a group they want to exterminate.
I'm limited to the people I'm presented with.
In other words, you can't name one single Republican you've voted for that wasn't an anti-LGBT+ bigot.
One of my senators supported the marriage act and voted for it, the other didn't. I don't know them personally, but at least one was for it.
I'm not sure if he hates an entire group of people or not. I don't like that they won't just support it, treat people as the same, and get the whole thing put to bed.
I'd love to support a different senator who had proper values about this specific topic, but didn't also contrast with other topics.
Why does this matter? Do you think my voting decision affects over generalizing a whole group?
Clearly there is division amount that party where some are not bogits.
Sometimes things aren't all or nothing.
I have given you three chances to provide me with a single name of any Republican you voted for that was not an anti-LGBT+ bigot.
You haven't done so.
You are not conversing in good faith and I think it's obvious why.
Thank you for proving my point.
I think we're done here.
What about Islamic religion? Are they bigots? There's a proper way to beat your wife constructively and lovingly.
Are they bigots?
They don't like community people either. I think they kill them? I watched a video of a group of them cutting the heads off two guys over bigot views.
Would rather have mild Republican bigotry then murder I guess.
I'm curious though if that's all of them, or some of them? All one political party,.or some?
Even now you won't give one single name of a non-bigoted Republican you have voted for. And it should be very obvious why that is. And why you vote for them anyway. Which makes you as bad as them.
Thanks for proving my point.
Goodbye.
Looking forward to you continuing to avoid every question I ask you while you're at work too.
Calm down mr sarcasm. I'm using some break time just for this.