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It definitely calls into question the average lemmy user's intelligence.
There’s a lot of tankies on Lemmy/Fediverse. They present a misleading picture of what people really think.
I would agree with you, had I not just had a conversation with a friend about a discord they're in being infected with the "U.S. is a totalitarian state" tankie bullshit.
Indoctrination works both ways, it isn't just conservatives.
There's tankies on other places too.
I saw one at Walgreens
Nah, these people are just garden variety idiots. My friend was roommates with one, dumbfuck wasted a ton of his tuition money on drugs and all of a sudden he's communist.
Edit: downvotes huh? Sounds like we've got some people who spent their money unwisely here. Adds up.
So fucking this.
Not funding a genocide is a tanky thing?
Lmao. The word had officially lost all meaning.
Well, considering Russia wants to stamp out Ukraine's cultural identity and has kidnapped children and killed civilians en masse, and tankies don't want to fund Ukraine's defense and make excuses for Russia...
Tankies don't exactly have a high ground with genocide. They're against funding a genocide, and apparently also against funding a defense against a genocide.
I don't give a fuck about them. I care about you guys trying to lump the entire anti war, anti war crimes group into being tankies.
I don't lump those people into the Tankies group unless their idea of anti war is to give to the aggressor everything they want. At some point war becomes necessary if the aggressor refuses to see anything else.
Well that's good to hear. I'm glad there's someone still being rational.
Tankie seems to be a term that means very different things to various people. I see it as someone, typically a leftist, who makes excuses for an authoritarian government opposed to the US. In this sense, the people who disparage Palestinian protesters are actually closer to Tankie than the protesters. They make excuses for the genocidal actions of a country they like.
I suppose that would be my definition of it. Someone who makes excuses for the genocidal actions of a country they like, for whatever reason. Typically applies to leftists but not always.
Afaik it comes from the Chinese and Russian propensity to end protests with tanks. So it's unconditional support for authoritarian regimes with communist or socialist branding.
Yeah I think you're right. The salient point is moreso the unconditional support for authoritarian regimes. Since communism/socialism aren't as big in Russia and China these days I think it probably fits "anti Western" countries better.
Which, there's nothing inherently wrong with being positioned as anti West. The problem is when Tankies see it as an absolute -- anything done by an anti Western power must be a good thing since they're anti West. A Tankie doesn't consider that those countries can be just as bad, if not worse.
There's gotta be a name for this sorta line of thinking, where the enemy of a bad guy simply has to be a good guy. Whatever fallacy this would be forgets that the enemy of a bad guy can not only be another bad guy, but a worse bad guy. There's certainly issues with the West, but a unipolar Russian (read: Putin) hegemony would be far, far worse.
It probably falls under either/or. Falsely assuming it must be one of two choices.
In any case, I'm glad to see you're a reasonable person as well.
I do try. Sometimes I lose my cool though.
We all do. Plus we make assumptions and fire from the hip. It happens.
When did words have any meaning?
They have to have some meaning or did I just order pancakes?
I mean, Genos is the cool robot dude from one punch man, no? /S
It's above the base reddit IQ because we know more Linux and programming.
Linux and programming are not necessarily signs of overall intelligence.