317
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

One that comes to mind for me: "Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger" is not always true. Maybe even only half the time! Are there any phrases you tend to hear and shake your head at?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] lady_maria@lemmy.world 88 points 4 months ago

"Everything happens for a reason ."

No. Fuck no, and fuck you. I DARE you to say that to the faces of the endless innocent people—many of whom are CHILDREN—who have been murdered, tortured, abused, enslaved, raped, ect.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

I hate how people use this but not the phrase itself.

Everything DOES happen for a reason. It's literal, precise, and accurate. Reasons dont need to be mysterious, aloof, or unknowable. They often are because we choose to stop learning but everything does happen for a reason so start looking for better questions

[-] Enkrod@feddit.org 3 points 4 months ago

The reasons just don't necessarily come with any moral take away attached.

Children get bone cancer for purely physical reasons, yes, but there is no plan behind it, nothing that makes the situation better in any way and this is how the phrase is usually being used. It's people saying: "Don't be sad, something good will come of it." to the faces of grieving parents or deathly ill people who have nothing to look forward to but pain.

Religious/spiritual proselytising has completely alienated the phrase from the methodological naturalism it could express.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Children get bone cancer for purely physical reasons, yes, but there is no plan behind it, nothing that makes the situation better in any way and this is how the phrase is usually being used

My exact point. Im glad you agree with me

[-] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 16 points 4 months ago

All those innocent people being abused usually have a reason behind it too; it's just that the reason is usually corporate greed and a lack of ethics in politics.

[-] elbucho@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I mean, everything does happen for a reason. It's just that most of the time, the reason is "because so-and-so is an asshole". It makes it essentially a useless platitude, but not an untrue one. I definitely take issue with the implication of it, that there's some supreme, all-knowing authority in the universe who has this complicated, labyrinthine plan for everyone that involves massive amounts of suffering. That whole "mysterious plan of God" thing is a way for Christians to take credit for all of the good stuff that happens, while downplaying all of the bad stuff that happens as just "part of God's plan!" It's insidious.

[-] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Second time I'm bringing it up in this thread, but in response to exactly that kind of thinking is why I've adopted "the universe doesn't care, so we have to" as a phrase I try to live by.

There are so many popular ways of thinking that absolve humans and humanity of various kinds of responsibility.

It's not good.

[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 3 points 4 months ago

My preferred response to this is, "Entropy. The eventually and unstoppable heat death of the universe where none of this matters is the reason."

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

Key indicator of privilege right there.

[-] grepe@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I think I get the sentiment that you are angry at but there is nothing wrong with that statement. It just doesn't mean "whelp, there must be some higher purpose those things are serving that we don't see" and is more like "there are some awful people doing bad things" or "they just were living in a seismic area" or "they had some genes not compatible with their survival"... There are always reasons. Not satisfying or purpose fulfilling reasons, just reasons.

[-] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I used to say this when I was a cringy 20-year-old, before I really saw and understood the world (and still believed in a god).

this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2024
317 points (97.3% liked)

Ask Lemmy

27258 readers
1666 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world or !askusa@discuss.online


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS