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[-] febra@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago

First and foremost, this isn't a 1000 year war. It's a bit over 100 years at most. The colonization of Palestine started around 100 years ago. Israel was founded in 1948.

Secondly, Kamala isn't working towards achieving shit. Her government is literally still sending weapons to Israel as Israel is shooting at UN peacekeepers, burning people alive, attacking five different countries, and much more worse.

[-] GracerGracCRAG@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

The jews had been subjugated by the ottomans well before the 1900s, even after as well. The 29 massacure sucessfully genocided (formal definition) The Jewish population that had lived in that city for literally 1000s of years. There are no Jews left in Hebron, despite being 15% of its population in the 20s.

Denying this shit has been going on for a 1000 years denies history.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 hours ago

The jews are not Israel but Israel definitely wants people to keep conflating them that way.

[-] match@pawb.social 4 points 53 minutes ago

and the palestinians are not the ottomans, for that matter

[-] A_Pile_of_Frog@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 hour ago

No, but there were Jews in that area. And even more Jews all over the peninsula.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 hour ago

How many of them were Israeli?

[-] GracerGracCRAG@lemmy.world -3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

They were Old Yishv, they were part of the foundation of Israel.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 32 minutes ago
[-] GracerGracCRAG@lemmy.world 1 points 29 seconds ago

Unironically I've heard this talking point before, when shouting down a nazi at a rally at my school in 2014. You know the english spelling of Yishuv so I'm going to assume you know what demographic they're from, and that that's not physically possible. You can down vote me all you like, but at least I can say I don't agree with nazis

[-] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 0 points 53 minutes ago* (last edited 52 minutes ago)

Jews are not Israelis, and the Ottomans are not Palestinians. Conflating these things is an important part of how the Zionist entity justifies itself.

Also, the 29 "massacre" killed and wounded less than a hundred people. It was part of a larger wave of violence that killed over a hundred Jews, but also killed over a hundred Arabs, and the Jews in Hebron were taken out of the area by the British, not driven out by the violence. Conflating these sparse and disorganized religious riots with the massive and highly organized ethnic cleansing that took place in 48 is a politically-motivated lie perpetuated by Zionists to insist that their claim to the land they've stolen is anything but fraudulent.

[-] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I agree. Those who care about Palestine should vote for Kamala because Trump is fully pro-genocide; but implying that Kamala has a valid plan, or even an existing plan, to help Palestinians, is untrue. She's going to do nothing or as little as possible.

The choice is between evil and more of the same, it's not between good and evil.

this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2024
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