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[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 3 hours ago

Here's the Socialist argument for Harris.

Ho Chi Minh would have know all about America's long history of slavery and genocide.

Ho helped the American OSS run missions in Vietnam during WW2.

Your allies don't have to be perfect.

[-] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Your allies don’t have to be perfect.

You say her critics are haggling about being perfect? Progressives arent even asking for perfect, they are asking for the bare minimum to follow our existing laws: neutrality.

And your implicit minimalization of whats going on is pretty terrible. We arent talking about school vouchers, PETA, or something trivial and grey shaded here, its a much more black and white and life and death conversation. Therefore actively supporting a genocide in a far rightwing war with American weapons and now American boots on the ground and American interference in the UN VS being truly neutral and enabling peace are pretty darn far apart high cost positions.

If Israel didnt have those weapons, they wouldnt be able to do so much killing, with so much impunity. This is illegal, unethical, and the cost to the western world order and our reputation is astronomical. So your characterizing it as strving for perfection doesnt seem right to me.

And you arent even considering the second order effects to the concept of democracy and sanctity of borders globally. We have neutered the UN, and that enables and encourages every militant thug in the world.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 51 minutes ago

Ho Chi Minh would have know all about America’s long history of slavery and genocide.

He still wanted help against the greater threat.

Trump is literally talking about being a dictator and ending elections.

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

There's a big difference between "not perfect" and "enabling a genocide, giving weapons to an ally that is starting a war with all the Middle-East and the UN, and burning children alive in hospital refugee camps".

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 52 minutes ago

There were lynchings going on during the time Ho Chi Minh was hosting the American soldiers who were fighting the Japanese. And Ho tried to get American support before the US spurned him.

And how is getting Trump in going to stop the Israelis? He'd be giving them nukes on Inauguration Day.

this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2024
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