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[-] DegenerateSupreme@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 days ago

I was banned from r/LateStageCapitalism for politely supporting a post with this reasoning. I pointed out that Trump would make the conflict even worse for innocents, and voting third-party to make a statement against neoliberal Democrat rule (which is bad) is a position that, in this moment, only the least-vulnerable in America can take when there is a risk of outright christo-fascism threatening the least-enfranchised.

Banned. “This is a socialist sub.” Proceeded to see a post from a mod openly mocking anyone who entertained lesser-of-two-evils arguments; they sounded like a sneering teenager. Over there, it’s all theory and no parsing of theory with reality.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago

Here's the Socialist argument for Harris.

Ho Chi Minh would have know all about America's long history of slavery and genocide.

Ho helped the American OSS run missions in Vietnam during WW2.

Your allies don't have to be perfect.

[-] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Your allies don’t have to be perfect.

You say her critics are haggling about being perfect? Progressives arent even asking for perfect, they are asking for the bare minimum to follow our existing laws: neutrality.

And your implicit minimalization of whats going on is pretty terrible. We arent talking about school vouchers, PETA, or something trivial and grey shaded here, its a much more black and white and life and death conversation. Therefore actively supporting a genocide in a far rightwing war with American weapons and now American boots on the ground and American interference in the UN VS being truly neutral and enabling peace are pretty darn far apart high cost positions.

If Israel didnt have those weapons, they wouldnt be able to do so much killing, with so much impunity. This is illegal, unethical, and the cost to the western world order and our reputation is astronomical. So your characterizing it as strving for perfection doesnt seem right to me.

And you arent even considering the second order effects to the concept of democracy and sanctity of borders globally. We have neutered the UN, and that enables and encourages every militant thug in the world.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -1 points 3 days ago

Ho Chi Minh would have know all about America’s long history of slavery and genocide.

He still wanted help against the greater threat.

Trump is literally talking about being a dictator and ending elections.

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