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[-] DegenerateSupreme@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 days ago

I was banned from r/LateStageCapitalism for politely supporting a post with this reasoning. I pointed out that Trump would make the conflict even worse for innocents, and voting third-party to make a statement against neoliberal Democrat rule (which is bad) is a position that, in this moment, only the least-vulnerable in America can take when there is a risk of outright christo-fascism threatening the least-enfranchised.

Banned. “This is a socialist sub.” Proceeded to see a post from a mod openly mocking anyone who entertained lesser-of-two-evils arguments; they sounded like a sneering teenager. Over there, it’s all theory and no parsing of theory with reality.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago

Here's the Socialist argument for Harris.

Ho Chi Minh would have know all about America's long history of slavery and genocide.

Ho helped the American OSS run missions in Vietnam during WW2.

Your allies don't have to be perfect.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

IIRC he had actually originally appealed to the US for help, and there's a good chance he'd have gotten it too if France didn't threaten to leave NATO and join the Societ bloc if America took any course of action besides helping them continue to suppress the Vietnamese.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

It's amazing how history works.

At the time, the West 'losing China' was a political hurricane. Stalin and Mao were seen as unstoppable and nuclear war was on everyone's minds. France was seen as a vital part of the West's alliance, and even the threat of them leaving was disastrous.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

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