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Much credit to this post.

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[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

... you have to compile it? You can just direct me to reputable sources that you are aware of, I can look myself. I won't trust random internet person anyway. No compiling necessary, if you know where the information is located, you can just point me at it.

That's cute, but you've clearly begun trying to bait me into getting angry by framing all of my disagreements as ignorance that you are superior to, instead of dealing with my arguments fairly. It's not that easy though, I'm fairly resistant to being talked down to and belittled. I do not believe in your "correctness" you see, as I do not share your faith. And I've been around enough internet people to see the tricks. The lmfaos are a pretty strong indicator as well.

Actually people present evidence when challenged all the time. It's a horribly efficient way to prove the other fellow wrong.

Hm, so you did. I suppose I'm skimming over the quoted segments rather quickly. Regardless, you failed to address it, only pointing out a previous weapons conviction that served to reinforce my point about a dangerous individual. This links into your next issue, of the technicality, to keep a dangerous individual off of the streets. You claimed it was "harassment" as I recall, as if she was just petty? This is unlikely.

So, if one of the several articles had that claim of OPs, then why did the actual link arrived at by clicking on those words not contain that claim? Am I expected to have time to read all of the articles? It's Thursday, there's things to do. I find it a reasonable expectation that a link should go directly to the article that supports its claim. But, like I said, I'm willing to take you at your word and give OP the benefit of the doubt, perhaps they simply mixed the links up.

Defense lawyer incompetence I acknowledged as a flaw. Does it make your argument correct in its entirety? No, it's a point well-made though.

Technically we've discussed, I've explained why I consider it irrelevant and you have failed to address my arguments. To summarize: dangerous man, behind bars.

Still awaiting data. Not compiled data, something I can research and look up myself. You can name a book if you like, or direct me to a study. Even a well-researched article. You can pretend its some big hassle, but this is the internet, back your argument with proof is really common, and should be expected. Cops lie often is a strong claim. If you genuinely know this as a confirmed fact, you should know where statistics can be found.

I didn't mischaracterize them at all. They are two witnesses, that disagree with two other witnesses. This is very simple, and I addressed it. One being a cop is irrelevant though, they could be from different departments, different offices, etc. This snitches idea indicates you consume too much fiction. While yes, pressure to agree with other cops does happen, remember we have millions of police officers. The average is likely nowhere near your dramatized account. See? Irrelevant, without backing data at least.

No, I will not. See next:

It's about results. The prosecutor and defense exist in intentional opposition to each other, with each side intentionally using every legal tool at their disposal to accomplish their goals. This is the way our system was designed, for better or for worse. It is unreasonable to expect one side to only play by "the merits". Otherwise defense attorneys would never represent extremely guilty people you see.

Absolutely hilarious that you accuse me of condescension. Pot calling the kettle black much? I'm not the lmfao-ing one, I've actually been pretty reasonable.

And now you're just calling me a liar. Very classy of you. Perhaps you recognize the argument is not actually going your way? I imagine you don't usually lose these, it might be a strange feeling.

Lastly, pointing at an entire field of study is a pretty good sign you're not actually in possession of the evidence you claim.

I rest my case.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

As I see nothing indicating any real curiosity about cops as witness testimony nor an acknowledgement of the repeated bad faith behavior, I will not be replying further.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Very convenient excuse to avoid sourcing. Really shouldn't be difficult at all to source a basic fact, if the whole field of sociology agrees. If you asked me for data indicating the CO2 emissions are rising, something agreed on by climate science, I could have it for you in less than a minute.

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