view the rest of the comments
Ask Lemmy
A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions
Rules: (interactive)
1) Be nice and; have fun
Doxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them
2) All posts must end with a '?'
This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?
3) No spam
Please do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.
4) NSFW is okay, within reason
Just remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com.
NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].
5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions.
If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.
6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world or !askusa@discuss.online
Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.
Partnered Communities:
Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu
Now, conversely, if you work in support, please ACTUALLY FUCKING LISTEN TO ME when I am telling you I've already done that 17 different ways, along with tons of other troubleshooting and isolating and I'm not a technical moron and I tried every possibility to avoid calling you so can we PLEASE SKIP THE USUAL BULLSHIT SUGGESTIONS?!?!?!?!
I hate it too but they don't because everyone claims they know what they're doing and they've already tried all that stuff.
99% of the time it turns out they haven't and that was the problem.
I don't often need support, but when i do, i try to make it clear that i kinda know the deal and i tried everything in my power to make it work for days, and calling in support isn't my first instinct. But i completely understand why they treat you like a dummy.
That's the difference from a good support tech and a bad one tbh. Bring able to gauge someone's tech literacy and taking in all troubleshooting done before is literally the first thing you should do. So many escalations I've received just has "had user reboot, had them disconnect and reconnect to network. Checked and device has no pending updates, sending to L3." in the notes. Half of the time a reboot really wouldn't do anything, and they really just needed to be added to an AD group (most of my tickets last week). I'm just glad I'm shifting out of support and more into projects.
Honestly, they can't. The way IT works is there's multiple levels. First level, second level, third level. Whenever anybody calls in, they get first level, which are usually either inexperienced people, new people, or people with no experience whatsoever, and they're all reading scripts. They're the gatekeepers for level 2, 3, and 4, the people who actually know what they're doing. It's because 99 out of 100 people don't know shit and it just needs to be restarted and they would clog up the time of people who actually know what they're doing and nothing would ever get done.
And if one of those level one guys accidentally lets through somebody who should have been taken care of by their script, they will get reamed the fuck out for wasting people's time who gets paid more an hour than they do a day.
If I was support, had a list to work through because my calls were monitored and recorded, and you were being a complete know-it-all asshole, I would walk through them as slow as possible, and repeat as many as I could plausibly get away with.
Because that's the actual job: following instructions from their boss, which means following their processes. Why would they deviate from that, and risk their job, for someone who's rude, and/or self-important?
As someone who's also technically competent and rarely calls support, when I do, I've never had to repeat the same steps 17 times, or even 3 times.
I let them tell me to turn off and on again, confirm it's done, explain why I need a level 2 support or escalation. Then they'll typically ask me one or two more questions, which I'll politely answer, reiterate my polite request for level 2, and they will escalate for me.