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Maga’s violent threats spike as little girls threatened with rape
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Voting won’t save us. Not trying to throw a wrench in your plans to stay healthy and happy. But true mutual aid is what is most necessary now. Voting is what got us into this mess. Incrementalist politics will not save the climate, will not save us from fascism.
It’s the hard truth that the ownership class has brought to our lives. It’s the logical outcome of capitalism. This is sort of the endgame. We fight now. Relying on voting alone only enables more of the same. We’ve been trying to vote as long as the system has been around. And it’s led us here.
Voting is most likely still part of they way forward. Most of your comment is true, but as long as we have a democracy we have to vote.
Not voting is what got us into this. Harris turnout was lower than Biden's. Trump turnout was about the same as last time. Don't ever tell people not to vote. It's too easy to for us not to take advantage of it.
What's your plan to overthrow the government, in practical terms? How many casualties are acceptable? Do you even have a plan? Or are you just trying to vent?
It’s not about overthrowing the government. Local action to protect vulnerable peoples, mutual aid. The US Govt can’t be “overthrown.” But local enacting of harmful policies can be stopped.
That’s kinda the problem with the US. People can’t just all travel to the centrally located capital. Look at how the republicans have continually tried to “send it back to the states” where they can wash their hands of, say, outlawing abortion. Focus on your area, find mutual aid groups to support those being harmed by these laws. That is how you can effectively fight creeping fascism. They can put down one centrally located demonstration no problem. But they would have a much harder time fighting every town. (Psst This is also good advice in your own town. Spread out, and be more effective. Move around, don’t stay all together. Not when you’re acting, and not when you’re fleeing)
Depends, are you a cop?
No; definitely wary of those who advocate for armed insurgency against governments without a plan, exit strategy, and explicitly outlined intent for governance if successful.
I don't disagree that it'd be a good idea, but also I don't think any revolution has had this. The US, for example, didn't have The Articles of Confederation finalized until November of 1777. The Declaration of Independence, as I'm sure we know, was signed on July 4, 1776. They didn't have things ironed out for more than a year, and that version failed horribly.
If we need a revolution, we shouldn't let having specifics nailed down be a requirement. It's nice to have, and should be considered, but I don't think I know of a revolution that has done so ever.
Sorry but that's bullshit and is harmful.
Voting is quintessential to getting us out of this mess and trying to downplay the power of voting is only beneficial to those currently in power.
There are many actions to take beyond voting, but there is one very specific reason trump is president right now: his people voted.
Its the will of the people my friend. Americ a isnt the good boy you think it to be.