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Sorry, but if you're expected at 10 you should arrive at 10. Doesn't matter if it is work, a meet-up with friends or family, a date, or whatever. People schedule things around you, they'll expect you at 10, not 10 minutes later. So if you come late, it means you're not respecting other people's time, which means you don't respect other people.
You said it yourself: arrive to scheduled things on time. Meetings with others, for example. If you're going to do desk work, ten minutes more or less is irrelevant.
If you don't have anything to do with me on Tuesday morning but get uppity because I came in at 9:07 instead of 9:00 even though it affected nobody at all, that's a you problem, and please respect me by keeping it to yourself.
It's work, not elementary school. Just don't be late for your first meeting. But also don't throw meetings on people's calendar at 8am. It's a dick move.
Try working at a company that has staff on the opposite side of the planet. I've missed meetings scheduled for 7am (I start at 8) that were sent in the middle of the night. That's what I call a dick move.
Both are dick moves
Been there (worked with offshore in India). No getting around it, scheduling meetings just fucking sucks when you've got a 12 hour offset.
I feel like meetings are an exception. And meetings scheduled at the literal start of business open is just plain stupid if it can be avoided.
Bullshit, life happens. If you judge someone for their bus running late then you're just a sanctimonious prick.
That's a completely different scenario than intentionally coming in late.
Assuming people are intentionally showing up later is kind of the problem. They signed for the job, they want to get paid. Evidence would point to them not intentionally being late.
If it happens frequently then it certainly is intentional.
I see you've never met a toddler or a bad bus system.
If you have a toddler or a bad bus system then you need to account for that and take a bus earlier.
Are you paying them to wait around? Or have someone watch that toddler an extra hour? They don't get a personal bus.
Do you expect to get paid for being late?
Yes, parents get paid time off, and buses here come about every 20 minutes on average. Metro & trams being much more frequent with often under 10 minutes. Either way, it's your own responsibility to be on time.
So no. You're going to require them to use to more of their time, necessitating more child care, and not pay them for it. Instead you're going to stand on your privilege and pretend everyone is as blessed as you are.
Great take. This isn't why people on here talk about guillotines at all.
You got what you voted for. lol Did you think our "privilege" happened to just because? You can't expect things to change if you let people like Trump turn your country to shits. But this already starts even at a local level. There, all the way to the top, you guys vote for the wrong people - repeatedly. It's clear that you want it this way.
Trump got elected because the Democrats weren't doing much either. They make promises but don't deliver, (which yes is partly because of Republican obstruction). The election was decided this year when Kamala Harris told people nothing would substantively change in her interview on The View.
We're not getting a choice on mass transit and other services for the working class. But that also makes us the perfect case study for why lateness shouldn't be assumed to be a choice.
Lmao, yes, nothing fundamentally would change compared to Biden, not Trump.
But thanks for once again proving how full of shit you "both sides" people are. If you think Biden / Harris & Trump are the same, then you're in for a wild ride. But I guess that's what happens when you don't educate yourself about the things this administration has done.
Oh I voted for Harris. I'm just open about why they lost and what the electorate saw. The Democrats haven't done anything meaningful for the working class since Obama's healthcare act.
I don't think the conversation is about outliers or occasional lates, but about a habitual disconcern for being on time.
I'm sensitive to the issue as i work for a company that delivers stuff. 10 minutes of staff not being on time causes actual problems that can snowball and cause people to be late all day long. We are very schedule oriented so it matters.
Given the headcount and resource reduction we had to make because we were being sold to make us look lean, and now they are asking for even deeper cuts, its really bad for my crew when someone just isnt there making everyone else having to compensate.
Its very different for different environments/cultures and sometimes they dont mix well.
Don't compensate. That is the solution. Work normally, and if the bosses lose money, remind them to fix the staffing situation. Being a hero won't solve anything.
THIS.
Man I had to double-check what Lemmy community I was in. There's a lot of boss-apologists in this thread. O.o
Then you're running below minimum staffing and that's your fault, not theirs.
My favourite is when the person who we’re all working around sets the time and then doesn’t show up on time of the meeting. That’s the epitome of entitlement to disrespecting everyone’s (and the company) time. And this is a millennial that pulls this shit regularly at my job. It also costs the business a stupid amount of money when all those people aren’t producing revenue just to come sit in a meeting that isn’t going anywhere.